To me the 1250A looks like a 1250 (basically the 2350 size sousaphone of today) SIMPLY with less bell flair/pancake. ...of imagine putting a King RECORDING BASS bell (22") on a REGULAR 4/4 body, EXCEPT with a FULL 90-DEGREE "sousaphone" bell elbow. 4 so...in my opinion re: your hypothesis...no ...

Also, just a point of information, a few people have PM’d me about the horn, I don’t yet have the ability to reply as my post count isn’t high enough. Maybe I’ll get there soon and can respond back to y’all.

After looking at blokes link, I was thinking it looked like a 1250A from the 1946 picture, but the bell is 22 inches, and only the earliest models in that history have 22 inch bells…interesting.

bloke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:43 pm Okay, I apologize. I thought the question was which King model this Fillmore stencil would be comparable to.

That was indeed my follow-up question.

As @bloke said, it was made by H.N. White / King as a stencil that the Fillmore Music House paid to have their shop name engraved on it. Many US manufacturers made horns for other company's to sell with their names on them. Also, many companies imported European instruments and likewise paid to ...

GC, as a frame of reference, I see you’ve got one listed in your signature block for sale. What price point have you put on yours? In your knowledge is there any significance to this one being marked as a “Fillmore Special”? I had someone mention to me they believed the “special” models were US made ...

I dont see any reference to king anywhere on the instrument, could you tell me more or any other references to be looking at? Fillmore music house is the final name iteration of Fillmore brothers, so wasn’t thinking this was anything but one of their instruments…

I recently acquired a sousaphone and I don't know much about it, and google searches have come up pretty light. I believe this is an EEb Sousa, but tubas admittedly are not my thing so I could be wrong. The only markings I can find on it are the brand on the bell (Fillmore Music House - Cincinatti ...