This is the tuba by the way. I think it looks to be in great condition...

Stryk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:07 pm Unless it is like the old 186S - the same horn with no kranz or nickle silver slides, and no engraving. Much cheaper, just no frills. Not sure if they still make anything like that or not.

Yeah this model has no Kranz, so maybe it is indeed a 186S.

Yeah me too, I'm confused. Well over here in Germany you get a model called Miraphone 86. Is it allowed to post links to dealers websites? Anyway...for example: https://www.thomann.de/de/miraphone_86a_07000_bb_tuba.htm And even on Miraphones homepage it's listed as 86: https://www.miraphone.de ...

Hello everyone, being new to this forum and relatively new to being a tuba player, I have a question which I hope has not already been discussed in another thread (at least I could't find an answer to my question). I am currently looking for a new tuba and found a used Miraphone 186 which looks ...