Broomfield, CO: Willson 4v non-comp euph $1k

[arpthark]

https://denver.craigslist.org/msg/d/bro ... 12016.html

[MiBrassFS]

That’s an older one, too. I *think * it was before they were labeled as the 2704. BIG bell throat. I’m kinda impressed by the one sitting here. With a bit of clean up, the one in this ad could be a good player at a real bargain price, too!

[bloke]

With that design, they did some things whereby they attempted to "compensate" without a Blaikley System...so some of the tuning is "interesting"...but whatever.

- 4th valve seems to be "tuned" to 2-4 and 1-4, and seems to be too long to use by itself (whereby the player would choose 1-3).
- 2nd valve circuit is quite long as well, which defines some of the 2nd valve pitches as "good", but the middle-range "A" is usually remarkably flat (so - again - 1-3 for that A as well).

[MiBrassFS]

If the 4th circuit is too long on it, I would think that it would be easy enough to shorten it at the larger of the two 4th slides. Flat 2nd (“A”) slide (= Willson/Kurath euphs)? A bit more finagling, but straight forward doable. Not much finish left to worry about!

I still contend (not to be being contentious… Heh, heh…) that this could be good, inexpensive, and useful euph.

[bloke]

I think they're fine...just different.

4-valve non-compensating doesn't accomplish very much...and there sure are tons of those instruments paid for by hapless taxpayers.

At least, the Kuraths were thinking, and trying to make the 4th circuit (without benefit of Blaikley) do some more useful things in the low range...

...and those valvesets (probably Bauerfeind) were excellent.

[MiBrassFS]

This guys getting a bunch of free bumps!

I have been entertained by the one here. I owned a 2704 years ago that was a rotted out junker (someone threw it into a deal to sweeten the pot - probably should have thrown it in the dumpster). The geometry seemed to be different (valve block placement, slides, etc.) by my cloudy memory. The one thing that strikes me (ouch…) is that people look at these and think “Wilson’s version of a Yamaha YEP-321.” Totally not. The one here is MUCH bigger. Good? Bad? Just different. The one here right now is easy to steer and puts out a bunch of sound. Like I said, I’ve been entertained.

[arpthark]

Do these have small, medium, or large shank receivers?

How do they compare to, say, a King 2280?

[LeMark]

I looked one of those in very good condition for a while to add a fifth valve to and eventually just made that modification on my king. The king intonation is pretty much point and shoot and the stories I had heard about the Wilson, mostly from Joe, kind of scared me off of one

[gnimoyw]

I emailed with the guy and confirmed it has a large shank MP. I live ~10 mins away. This guy always has a smattering of interesting things for sale on Craigslist, never see them elsewhere (except every once in a while he has an eBay auction).

[bloke]

I looked one of those in very good condition for a while to add a fifth valve to and eventually just made that modification on my king. The king intonation is pretty much point and shoot and the stories I had heard about the Wilson, mostly from Joe, kind of scared me off of one

...but the young fella in Michiana would surely disagree, just because...