Ziess BBb

[hrender]

Cheap! Lacquer is shot, but not a lot of dents. Leadpipe may need some work. Can't tell if there's a kranz or not.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254687021776

[Levaix]

This is one of the good ones... Assuming no cracks or leaks that's an excellent deal. Even if it has minor damage and needs play conditioning your total price will still likely come under $2000. I have more than that invested in my Sonora and it was well worth it.

[bloke]

The Olds tuba/sousaphone and other misc braces on the main slide are certainly not deal breakers.