Stupid rant

[BopEuph]

Man, when I played euph, it was already annoying enough as to how often the 2nd valve slide filled with water.

Having a front action instrument just multiplies that annoyance. Especially on an extremely heavy horn!

That is all.

[matt g]

Is it still second valve?

[BopEuph]

Yep, and because I'm playing on this 5/4 monstrosity, it takes a bit more work to get the water out, especially without dumping it on the wood floor. I turn it upside down, pull the slide, and dump the water into the waste bin.

The other slides, being larger, don't gurgle for longer times, and most of them are on the bottom of the horn so it's not a lot of movement to get the water out. Though while I pull the 2nd, I turn the horn in a way that dumps the water from the top 3rd slide into the bottom one.

[bloke]

Both my compensating E-flat and my compensating euphonium are configured in this manner:

7-second video: https://i.imgur.com/FAQXJIi.mp4

[BopEuph]

That is super cool. I've never seen a 2nd valve water key so I kinda assumed it's not possible.

Does pulling the slide from the ring cause issues on the key?

By the way, I got a "potentially erotic post" warning when I clicked! I assume it's your sense of humor?

[bloke]

...probably a reaction (from your server/spyware program/anti-virus program/parental protection program...??) to some things that some people post on imgur.

[matt g]

That pull ring/water key combo is kinda erotic...

@BopEuph, I’m assuming your Kanstul second valve slide goes “down then up” (assuming you hold the horn at a typical tilt to the left) from both ports?

If so, there might be a trick of tipping it to the right (to your right as you’re holding it) and half-valving the second valve to get the water into the main slide.

Maybe?

[BopEuph]

Ooh, maybe? I never thought about trying to move it to a different slide...that is, without doing the French horn spin.

[Three Valves]

YOU rant.

WE decide if it's stupid.

OK, it's stupid.

[BopEuph]

YOU rant.

WE decide if it's stupid.

OK, it's stupid.

[MN_TimTuba]

By the way, I got a "potentially erotic post" warning when I clicked! I assume it's your sense of humor?

Being a slow day here, I specifically clicked his link, just to get the "potentially Erotic post".
FWIW, it didn't do anything for me. In that way.
But the ring/valve combo is an excellent solution.
Tim

[UncleBeer]

I've never seen a 2nd valve water key so I kinda assumed it's not possible.

All the Wessex euphs have Amado water keys on the 2nd slide.

[BopEuph]

By the way, I got a "potentially erotic post" warning when I clicked! I assume it's your sense of humor?

Being a slow day here, I specifically clicked his link, just to get the "potentially Erotic post".
FWIW, it didn't do anything for me. In that way.
But the ring/valve combo is an excellent solution.
Tim

Yeah, it might have been because I was on my phone. I find the experience of Imgur on the phone is absolutely awful. I deleted the app because there was always a popup advertising the app that I'm already on before I could ever view the link.

And that ring is awesome. I wish I had that on the 2900. I guess the soldering and bracing has to be way stronger than the traditional water key, though.

[bort2.0]

By the way, I got a "potentially erotic post" warning when I clicked! I assume it's your sense of humor?

Being a slow day here, I specifically clicked his link, just to get the "potentially Erotic post".
FWIW, it didn't do anything for me. In that way.
But the ring/valve combo is an excellent solution.
Tim

Did anyone else go to Urban Dictionary to lookup "spit valve"? (Definition, surprisingly, was -- The valve(s) found on a brass-wind instrument that are opened to release saliva accumulated while playing.)

[bloke]

I've never seen a 2nd valve water key so I kinda assumed it's not possible.

All the Wessex euphs have Amado water keys on the 2nd slide.

I friend of mine (an extraordinarily fine trumpet player...and in all styles, who went to school at NEC) refers to those (jokingly) as "Armando" water keys.

[greenbean]

...
By the way, I got a "potentially erotic post" warning when I clicked! I assume it's your sense of humor?

Well, the water key does have a... you know ... nipple.

[Mary Ann]

I put a Joy Key on my NStar because the water key had been removed. It worked great but you need a "tuba pee rag" under it.

[gwwilk]

... but you need a "tuba pee rag" under it.

When playing, I ALWAYS have such a rag within easy reach, no matter where I'm practicing, rehearsing, or performing. A black cotton dishtowel isn't easy to spot onstage when in a tuxedo. Otherwise they're old white dishtowels, although I might opt for red when it's our Holiday Concert...

[GC]

I need to have an Amado water key or a Pollard valve put on mine.

[Lch3]

Had a Pollard water key added to second valve slide on Wessex Gnagey Eb. Works great.

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