The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds

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Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds

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BINGO ! :smilie8:

I just received an email from the gig-meister (contractor) that the Hallelujah Chorus will be played in the CORRECT key, rather than in (sheesh! :red: ) this brass quintet arrangement key (D-flat).

Thank goodness...' WAY easier button-mashing.

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Ah Heckle, Jeckle. Even I could play that one. And I wouldn’t beeotch about the key signature either!! :tuba:
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Three Valves wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:05 pm Ah Heckle, Jeckle. Even I could play that one. And I wouldn’t beeotch about the key signature either!! :tuba:
yeah...but "easy tuning" is an issue, if the goal is "spot on AND absolutely centered".

2-3 pitches are suck-ish on most brass instruments (including many B-flat tubas).
2-4 pitches suck on ALL brass instruments (sharp, without pulling on some slide), whereas 5-2-3 is FLAT (ref: tubas that are C-length)
D-flat major is a "good" key for a GOOD E-flat tuba, but I ain't draggin' two or three instruments to an Easter gig...particularly not a two-locations one.

bloke "the other people on the email list are 'hot-shots', so I (a lowly toobuh-guy) had best do (well...) my best...as I am wont to do...

...but Hallelujah Chorus in D-flat major is just plain DUMB...as DUMB as the key of that old band transcription of Berlioz' Rákóczi March :smilie4: "
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Prima donnas. :eyes:
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Three Valves wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:03 pm Prima donnas. :eyes:
well, no...
They’re just damn good players, who never post blather - as do I.
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1. It just occurred to me that IF England was one of the places where (during Handel's time) A was tuned at 415 hz, then the D-flat arrangement is (gulp) correct.

2. whoa...:smilie4:
It looks like this might be where you can tabulate my screw-ups on Sunday. :bugeyes:

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What makes you think I was talking about “them??” :huh:

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Three Valves wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:26 pm What makes you think I was talking about “them??” :huh:

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We've played Craig Garner's brass/organ arrangement of this, which is in the correct key and either the tuba, euph or trombone can carry the melody. It's the only one we play where I take the solo part. Unfortunately, we won't be playing it this year, but maybe next....... :smilie5:
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D is better...D-flat (with A=440 tuning) is originally/aurally correct.

I'd play it on the baritone, if in D or D-flat.

We ran it (first thing) yesterday at a mid-afternoon rehearsal...' went fine.
' finally met Bruce Faske (Arkansas State trombone guru - from Texas) in-person...' great guy/fine player, and very easy with whom to match tuning.

I'll be heading out in a hour for the 11 A.M. C.S.T. outdoor service - at one of the Depression-era-built "shell" venues.

Hallelujah Chorus arr. (which we are playing in D-major)...
The tuba part is too busy, doubling too many trombone figures that are not original in the lowest voice...I circled several figures, so that it sounds better, I also just friggin' changed some of the figures.
Wade would have done (could do) a much better job of arranging it.
It may well (??) be a good idea to have double parts (D-flat and D) JUST IN CASE the brass players (albeit not baroque instruments) are brought - in conjunction with some sort of "authentic Baroque" performance.
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The temperature out there wasn’t even quite 70, but the direct sunlight rendered my instruments hot to the touch, and hot air chimneyed out of their mouthpipes.
I pulled out the F tuba tuning slide about an inch, and the euphonium‘s slide about 5/8 inch, which were apparently pretty good guesses, because I wasn’t hearing any “wah-wah‘s” between my instruments and the others.
A Blues Brothers hat and sunglasses would have been handy.
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bloke wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:25 am D is better...D-flat (with A=440 tuning) is originally/aurally correct.

I'd play it on the baritone, if in D or D-flat.

We ran it (first thing) yesterday at a mid-afternoon rehearsal...' went fine.
' finally met Bruce Faske (Arkansas State trombone guru - from Texas) in-person...' great guy/fine player, and very easy with whom to match tuning.

I'll be heading out in a hour for the 11 A.M. C.S.T. outdoor service - at one of the Depression-era-built "shell" venues.

Hallelujah Chorus arr. (which we are playing in D-major)...
The tuba part is too busy, doubling too many trombone figures that are not original in the lowest voice...I circled several figures, so that it sounds better, I also just friggin' changed some of the figures.
Wade would have done (could do) a much better job of arranging it.
It may well (??) be a good idea to have double parts (D-flat and D) JUST IN CASE the brass players (albeit not baroque instruments) are brought - in conjunction with some sort of "authentic Baroque" performance.
Bruce is a great guy. I met him when he was taking his DMA at Alabama and I was down there visitin’.

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