POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Projects, repair topics, and Frankentubas

shorty/fatty Holton B-flat 5th valve

nope
10
16%
yep
34
56%
maybe later
17
28%
 
Total votes: 61

User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19301
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3845 times
Been thanked: 4091 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by bloke »

Image

...and of the ARTISTE-IC DEBUT of the bhlolkton BB-flat tuba upcoming on May 8th !!! :bugeyes:

Check it out: traffic lights, and TWO U.S. Highways !!!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... 132108.jpg


User avatar
Doc
Posts: 2472
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:48 am
Location: Downtown Browntown
Has thanked: 846 times
Been thanked: 767 times
Contact:

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by Doc »

If we can’t be there, can someone record it and post it?
Welcome to Browntown!
Home of the Brown Note!
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19301
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3845 times
Been thanked: 4091 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by bloke »

Standard fare is outdoors in a town square with five microphones, an “ok” PA, and a guy that’s “ok” at running it.
I dearly love all the players, but - though everyone is capable - not all five are “artistes”.
meh...Maybe FB live...if Mrs. bloke tags along, has enough bars, and can figure out how to do it...(??)
I am nearly as tickled with this little powerhouse tuba as I am with Covid the cat. 😻
Doc wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:01 pm If we can’t be there, can someone record it and post it?
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19301
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3845 times
Been thanked: 4091 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by bloke »

I WILL NEVER SELL THIS TUBA !!!

(Does anyone have a Miraphone 98 they'd care to trade for it...??) :laugh:
User avatar
GC
Posts: 515
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:53 pm
Location: Rome, GA [Rosedale/Armuchee suburbs]
Has thanked: 77 times
Been thanked: 99 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by GC »

Will Mrs. Bloke have to bury you with the Holton, the B&S, and the Thor? :teeth:
Packer/Sterling JP377 compensating Eb; Mercer & Barker MBUZ5 (Tim Buzbee "Lone ☆ Star" F-tuba mouthpiece), Mercer & Barker MB3; for sale: Conn Monster Eb 1914, Fillmore Bros 1/4 Eb ca. 1905 antique (still plays), Bach 42B trombone
User avatar
Three Valves
Posts: 4604
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:07 pm
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
Has thanked: 813 times
Been thanked: 500 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by Three Valves »

That looks Big Time compared to our Strawberry Festival in Olney, MD. :thumbsup:
Thought Criminal
Mack Brass Artiste
TU422L with TU25
1964 Conn 36k with CB Arnold Jacobs
Accent (By B&S) 952R with Bach12
The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column
User avatar
bort2.0
Posts: 5253
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:13 am
Location: Minneapolis
Has thanked: 336 times
Been thanked: 999 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by bort2.0 »

GC wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:39 am Will Mrs. Bloke have to bury you with the Holton, the B&S, and the Thor? :teeth:
He said "I will never..."

Someone else though...?

(My belief -- you can't take it with you. Not even the kings of Egypt could take their treasures with them. Your family should absolutely cash it in and make it useful for them.)
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19301
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3845 times
Been thanked: 4091 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by bloke »

DONE:

☑ synthetic guides fabricated (3-48 SAE thread), installed, and fitted

☑ pistons vented

☑ Yamaha springs installed (scrounged/used...because I'm CHEAP)...some that someone else asked me to replace, because the plastic was peeling off of them

☑ half-@$$ cleaned out the interior

☑ ends of water key springs NOT cut off, so I won't have to supply myself with six MORE of them, when I put a finish on this thing (because I'm CHEAP)

...so: IT'S OFFICIALLY "A TUBA" !!! :bugeyes: :tuba: :thumbsup: :smilie7:

bloke "It plays 'The Ride' great...but (at least: for now) I DO have to think about the fingerings for E/B. It's particularly friendly towards Prokofiev excerpts...so: yet another tuba that makes me sound AS IF I practice, which are the type that stay behind here at blokeplace..."
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19301
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3845 times
Been thanked: 4091 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by bloke »

GC wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:39 am Will Mrs. Bloke have to bury you with the Holton, the B&S, and the Thor? :teeth:
I have a University of Tennessee Health Science Center (ie. medical school) donor card in my wallet, which authorizes them to pick up my rotting corpse, do weird stuff with it, and not-NOT-NOT-NOT return it to the family, when done with it (ie. dispose of it at THEIR expense).

I've also told Mrs. bloke that - IF she holds a memorial service for me (hiring some guy with a funny collar to say $h!t about me that he would be reading off index cards), that I will HAUNT 👻 her. :bugeyes:
bort wrote:Your family should absolutely cash it in and make it useful for them.
It's all worked out in advance...There's a metal scrap guy who checks with us approximately once a month, so...

bloke "
talking head wrote:You should buy life insurance, because you care about your family
...yeah...but the instant that I would create eligibility for that policy to pay money to my family, I would also no longer care about them." :smilie6:
These users thanked the author bloke for the post:
GC (Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:48 pm)
User avatar
pjv
Posts: 240
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:17 pm
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 48 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by pjv »

Nice work.
How many hours of work have you put into it (including shopping, driving, telephone calls, etc)?
These users thanked the author pjv for the post:
bloke (Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:03 pm)
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19301
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3845 times
Been thanked: 4091 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by bloke »

pjv wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:59 pm Nice work.
How many hours of work have you put into it (including shopping, driving, telephone calls, etc)?
Projects - such as this - probably eat up 200 - 300 hours, including putting some sort of finish on them... :red:
...but I'm probably not counting all the hours required, and (of course) "posting crap about it" doesn't count...
...so yes: These to-keep-for-myself" tubas are "EXPENSIVE" tubas, which is why these "projects" tend to sit in boxes, whereas "straightening out beat-up tubas that I bought to flip" (which only need to be REPAIRED and not "MADE") require FAR fewer hours to morph them into marketable merchandise.

The 700 sq. ft. (15+m x 4+m) barn addition (nice-enough-looking to be close to the house, lighted, handsome windows, rustic cedar siding, metal roof, and with multiple gates, hay storage, and built-ins, which we made appear original to the rest of the barn) probably took about the same number of hours...except Mrs. bloke helped.

Here are a couple of "glamour" shots...

bloke "It's un-lacquered - to 'increase resonance'." :laugh:

Image
These users thanked the author bloke for the post (total 2):
Three Valves (Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:06 pm) • Kirley (Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:06 am)
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19301
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3845 times
Been thanked: 4091 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by bloke »

perhaps a tedious post...

...but extensive playing indicates (per a post in the main forum) that moving the cross-brace in the #1 slide (from outer to inner) will likely be beneficial (for more comfortably grasping the #1 slide), and that installing a steel stop-rod (Bach trumpet #3 slide style) on the back (out of harm's way) of the upper #4 slide will likely prove to be a good "fail-safe" against pulling that slide out too far - particularly when pulling it for (1-4-5) "low E-flat".
These users thanked the author bloke for the post:
Doc (Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:36 am)
User avatar
Doc
Posts: 2472
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:48 am
Location: Downtown Browntown
Has thanked: 846 times
Been thanked: 767 times
Contact:

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by Doc »

bloke wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:22 am perhaps a tedious post...

...but extensive playing indicates (per a post in the main forum) that moving the cross-brace in the #1 slide (from outer to inner) will likely be beneficial (for more comfortably grasping the #1 slide), and that installing a steel stop-rod (Bach trumpet #3 slide style) on the back (out of harm's way) of the upper #4 slide will likely prove to be a good "fail-safe" against pulling that slide out too far - particularly when pulling it for (1-4-5) "low E-flat".
:thumbsup:
Welcome to Browntown!
Home of the Brown Note!
User avatar
Yorkboy
Posts: 851
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:47 am
Has thanked: 255 times
Been thanked: 131 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by Yorkboy »

bloke wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:22 am perhaps a tedious post...

...but extensive playing indicates (per a post in the main forum) that moving the cross-brace in the #1 slide (from outer to inner) will likely be beneficial (for more comfortably grasping the #1 slide), and that installing a steel stop-rod (Bach trumpet #3 slide style) on the back (out of harm's way) of the upper #4 slide will likely prove to be a good "fail-safe" against pulling that slide out too far - particularly when pulling it for (1-4-5) "low E-flat".
Not tedious at all, actually informative and entertaining.

This illustrates two things:

- building a tuba takes a lot of time and patience

- just when you think the “punch list” is “punched out”....
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19301
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3845 times
Been thanked: 4091 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by bloke »

I do NOT NEED all of this #4 slide tuning range, but (rather than restricting it to only what's needed) I just "fail-safed" it (to within a 1/2" of it's final extension), so (were I to get carried away) I won't end up blowing an "air-ball" at some dramatic "low D♯" moment.
:laugh:...Could you imagine blowing an "air-ball" in "Uranus"...??
(parts: two junk/altered saxophone posts, some 3mm steel rod, and a couple of M3x.5-threaded knurled nuts)

VIDEO: https://i.imgur.com/cvy4O8U.mp4
These users thanked the author bloke for the post:
Tubajug (Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:33 pm)
User avatar
matt g
Posts: 2580
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:37 am
Location: Southeastern New England
Has thanked: 263 times
Been thanked: 554 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by matt g »

There used to be a stop on my fifth valve slide on the 2165 that had been removed years prior to my ownership. For whatever reason, I want to have it put back.
Dillon/Walters CC (sold)
Meinl-Weston 2165 (sold)
WC8KCY
Posts: 494
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:07 am
Has thanked: 250 times
Been thanked: 43 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by WC8KCY »

matt g wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:35 pm There used to be a stop on my fifth valve slide on the 2165 that had been removed years prior to my ownership. For whatever reason, I want to have it put back.
I once owned, and my sister now owns, a King 1165 euphonium. It has a trumpet-style throw ring for the upper-loop 3rd valve slide. It's easy to pull the slide right out of the receiver tubes if you're not mindful. It, too, could use a stop rod, and I've wondered if King once built them that way.
User avatar
MN_TimTuba
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:33 pm
Location: Wadena County, Minnesota
Has thanked: 728 times
Been thanked: 167 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by MN_TimTuba »

bloke wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:49 pm
:laugh:...Could you imagine blowing an "air-ball" in "Uranus"...?
I'm sorry, but after years of teaching General Music, this strikes me as 8th grade humor.
And I still laughed. :facepalm2:
Tim
MN_Tim
Lee Stofer Custom 2341-5
Miraphone 83 Eb
Miraphone 191-5 (formerly)
Holton BBb345 (formerly and fondly)
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19301
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3845 times
Been thanked: 4091 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by bloke »

Most of my humor is not much beyond the sophomoric, though quite a few still don't seem to "get" it.
These users thanked the author bloke for the post (total 2):
MN_TimTuba (Sat May 01, 2021 9:38 am) • Yorkboy (Sat May 01, 2021 12:25 pm)
User avatar
Yorkboy
Posts: 851
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:47 am
Has thanked: 255 times
Been thanked: 131 times

Re: POLL: shorty/fatty (York-like) Holton B-flat tuba with 19-inch bell...

Post by Yorkboy »

I do like those rod-style slide stops, especially for the 1st valve tuning crook. The last few I’ve installed I made myself (although the idea of installing pre-made ones is much more appealing to me.....!)
Post Reply