Restoring the luster of a 123-year-old tuba

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Restoring the luster of a 123-year-old tuba

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Hi all - I had the day off yesterday, and the weather was great, so I worked on cleaning and polishing the 1899 C. G. Conn American Model Monster BBb Bass that was graciously given to me a couple of weeks ago (see previous posts).

Here's the transformation!

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For those interested, here is the "recipe" that I went with, which was recommended to me by a repair/restoration specialist:

1. Thoroughly cleaned the tuba with a mild soap and water, then dried it off.
2. Wiped it down multiple times with Tarn-X to remove the tarnish, then rinsed it thoroughly.
3. Gently brushed it with a baking soda and water paste, then rinsed it thoroughly, and dried it off.
4. Lightly polished it with a tarnish-inhibiting polish (I used Hagerty's silver polish).

Also, I had previously suggested that the year the tuba was built was 1898, but Peggy Banks, at the National Music Museum, who is an expert on all things Conn, and has been researching serial numbers for decades, confirmed that it was built in 1899 (serial number 66235).

Finally, you'll notice that there are two tubes, that relate to the main tuning slide, that didn't polish up, as they are not silver plated. They are extension tubes that make the horn low pitch, and were perhaps added later.
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that's a nice job... i have a 1910ish york & sons little Eb that i need to do that with.
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Looks great! I wish I could have polished my horns outside! :)
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That engraving is gorgeous!

Nice job!

Is the leadpipe at a comfortable height? It looks quite low, but maybe the horn is so big that it just looks that way.

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Dave, if you ever decide to have the dents removed or otherwise spend a chunk of money on this tuba, you could have a local tech buff out and then send off those extensions to Anderson for silver plating. For something that small it would not be super expensive. Since they are not original to the horn it would not be a "tuba blasphemy" to alter them. Then they would not stick out and detract from the overall look of the horn.

Just a thought.

I like the horn. Nice work!
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York-aholic wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:45 am Is the leadpipe at a comfortable height? It looks quite low, but maybe the horn is so big that it just looks that way.
It is oddly low. I'm only 5'8", but I have to rest the bottom bow on my thighs to have the mouthpiece comfortably reach my mouth - never had to do that before!
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Beautiful! I've got an old Pan American sousaphone that could use this!
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Tubajug wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:40 am Beautiful! I've got an old Pan American sousaphone that could use this!
Funny you should mention that - my son and I rescued an old, unused Pan American Sousaphone from his middle school years ago and treated it exactly in the same way as the tuba above (that's when I originally received the advice on how to clean and polish it):

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Played an F. E. Olds 4-valve BBb in high school (late '70s)
Led the USC Trojan Marching Band tuba section (early '80s)
Now playing an F. Schmidt (=VMI) 3301 and goofing around
on a 1925 Pan American Sousaphone and an 1899 Conn tuba!
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