Replay of Carol Jantsch playing the new Wynton Marsalis Tuba concerto

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Replay of Carol Jantsch playing the new Wynton Marsalis Tuba concerto

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The Philadelphia Orchestra is replaying the world premier of Carol Jantsch playing the new Wynton Marsalis tuba concerto. It's online for the next two weeks...

Click on the 3/20 episode.

https://www.wrti.org/classical-archive- ... a-and-more

Currently giving it my first listen. Oregon Symphony will also be playing it at the end of April
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Where in the 5hr program does it start?? :huh:
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It's pretty close to the beginning, like within 15 minute (I've closed the player, now, so I can't look).
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Thanks for posting this!

So far I don't not like the piece. Which is a lot for me to say on a first listen of anything. Especially a tuba concerto. It's clever and well-thought-out, and it really does take the tuba in all its glory into account. And it seems like it's a whole lot harder than Ms. Jantsch makes it sound. Her evenness and fluidity mask some seemingly brutal flexibility challenges.

Speaking of. I'm assuming she played it on the Yamaha 822 F. And it's a nice horn for the piece. She has always produced a great singing tone out of it, and that comes through. As does her superb articulation, which, frankly, most players don't ever really polish. Myself included. But there's also a great American fatness to the sound, which works for this particular piece. Not to compliment the horn at the expense of the player, but it wouldn't sound like this on an Alexander is all I'm saying.

First reaction: I'd love to pick this piece up and learn it. It seems like a fun piece to perform. Second reaction: I couldn't do it justice, so it's better if I just leave it over there and let the professionals handle it.
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It's the first piece. Music starts at 7:45
Three Valves wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:23 pm Where in the 5hr program does it start?? :huh:
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First movement reminded me of Walter Hartley.






I do not like Walter Hartley.

2nd and 3rd were better, haven't made it to the finale yet
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The first was a bit nontonal, and if I don’t ever hear polyphonics again that will be fine with me.

Overall, though, it’s an enjoyable listen. The finale plays like typical Marsalis jazz, which I enjoy. The middle movements need to be heard without all that god-forsaken FM radio loudness processing. Her dynamics were squashed flat to the destruction of the music. I hate radio stations that assume everything has to loud in a noisy car. Classical stations especially should know better.

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The Austin classical FM station for many years only ran their limiter during drive time. If you were listening in the car after rush hour, you could work the volume control yourself. Even when the limiter/compressor was on, it was moderate and applied uniformly to the whole signal, so the music still sounded natural and had dynamics, but soft music just wasn't quite as soft. That's a lot different from normal FM multi-band limiting. I guess we were pretty lucky.
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She sounds great!


Dave Kirk is playing it this weekend with Houston. Unfortunately, I can't attend, but one can listen to the Sunday matinee online for $20.
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1. She makes it sound effortless. Incredible playing!
2. I don't have a chance in hell of ever mastering even two measures of it.
3. I don't like the piece very much.
4. Your mileage may vary.
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Great piece and great playing!
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Stryk wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:43 am 1. She makes it sound effortless. Incredible playing!
2. I don't have a chance in hell of ever mastering even two measures of it.
3. I don't like the piece very much.
4. Your mileage may vary.
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I'm not sure what I think of the piece. I'll listen again to see how much or little I like it, but I sure do enjoy her sound and her playing.

It's safe to say I won't be adding this piece to my next recital. :laugh:
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This would have been right up Sam Pilafian's alley.
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Rick Denney wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:10 am …and if I don’t ever hear polyphonics again that will be fine with me.
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I was at this performance and I liked the piece the first time I heard it. Now I’ve listened to the recording twice and it keeps getting better as I hear more things going on.

Not that it makes any difference to the listener, but impressive nonetheless, is the fact that she played the entire thing by memory, notwithstanding disjunct intervals, irregular rhythms, and fast tempos.

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Lot of great comments. I've listened to it now about 10 times and of the 4 movements, I do love the 4th the most.

It's going to be interesting to hear how other musicians approach it. I was listening to the Brass Junkies podcast with Chris Lee. He's going to be playing it soon (with a live stream in June I think). I'd be really excited to hear Sergio Carolino take it on
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