The Evolution of C. G. Conn's BBb Bass to 1935

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The Evolution of C. G. Conn's BBb Bass to 1935

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Hi all - as I continue to research the 1899 Conn American Model Monster BBb Bass I acquired recently, I was curious to see where it fit in the evolution of Conn's BBb tuba. Here's what I came up with:

Conn's BBb Basses to 1935 (simple table).jpg
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I welcome your input - esp. corrections of more complete dates - thanks!
Last edited by Dave Detwiler on Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:44 pm, edited 2 times in total.


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I always thought the Grand Orchestral and the Jumbo were distinct models.

Nice work!

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the elephant wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:32 am You know, you can right-click/option-click each underlined word and have your computer learn the spelling so that you no longer get the red lines. It gives you fewer distractions — and — when you *do* make the occasional typo with one of these added words, it will correctly display it as such. Right now, I have both Mirafone and Miraphone in my spelling dictionary, so neither triggers the evil, red underline. However, if I type Mirahone it catches it for me.
Thanks - I hadn't even noticed that, but it's fixed now!
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the elephant wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:32 am I always thought the Grand Orchestral and the Jumbo were distinct models.
They may be, but they look virtually identical, and the specs are the same for both - 36.5 inches tall, weighs 25 pounds, and has a bell diameter of 21.75 inches. Even the cost is the same, $170, as is the tag line, "The Biggest Practical Bass Made."
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Dave Detwiler wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:56 am
the elephant wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:32 am I always thought the Grand Orchestral and the Jumbo were distinct models.
They may be, but they look virtually identical, and the specs are the same for both - 36.5 inches tall, weighs 25 pounds, and has a bell diameter of 21.75 inches. Even the cost is the same, $170, as is the tag line, "The Biggest Practical Bass Made."
Good to know. Thanks!
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For some reason the simple table is not displaying for me. Just the name of the file.
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Table not displaying here, either.
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Here too. No joy.
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The selected attachment does not exist anymore.
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Works fine for me.

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donn wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:22 pm The selected attachment does not exist anymore.
Strange - it shows up for me. Does one have to be logged in to see attachments? Regardless, I'll put it here as well, and see if you can see it:

Conn's BBb Basses to 1935 (simple table).jpg
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I can see the chart now. I was not able to view it previously. Thank you for sharing it.
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Dave Detwiler wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:56 am
the elephant wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:32 am I always thought the Grand Orchestral and the Jumbo were distinct models.
They may be, but they look virtually identical, and the specs are the same for both - 36.5 inches tall, weighs 25 pounds, and has a bell diameter of 21.75 inches. Even the cost is the same, $170, as is the tag line, "The Biggest Practical Bass Made."
So, is a bass bigger than 37" tall and 25 pounds still considered impractical?
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Dave Detwiler wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:13 am Hi all - as I continue to research the 1899 Conn American Model Monster BBb Bass I acquired recently, I was curious to see where it fit in the evolution of Conn's BBb tuba. Here's what I came up with:


Conn's BBb Basses to 1935 (simple table).jpg


I welcome your input - esp. corrections of more complete dates - thanks!
The images are not coming through for me from this or the repost link downthread. I'm not seeing them on any of my work computer (Chrome), my home computer (Mozilla), or my iPhone, either through Safari or Tapatalk.

Edit: I suspect it's because it's linked to your website, which is apparently not certificated. Some browsers will accept it, some won't, and it may also depend on the intervening network. I think I followed a link to one of your articles, Dave, and my browser informed me that it was "not secure" but it showed it anyway. I would suggest that you're gonna hafta address the site certificate issue, or figure out what may be wrong with any certificates you thought you had.

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Rick Denney wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:30 am The images are not coming through for me from this or the repost link downthread. I'm not seeing them on any of my work computer (Chrome), my home computer (Mozilla), or my iPhone, either through Safari or Tapatalk.

Edit: I suspect it's because it's linked to your website, which is apparently not certificated. Some browsers will accept it, some won't, and it may also depend on the intervening network. I think I followed a link to one of your articles, Dave, and my browser informed me that it was "not secure" but it showed it anyway. I would suggest that you're gonna hafta address the site certificate issue, or figure out what may be wrong with any certificates you thought you had.

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Thanks, Rick. That shouldn't be the problem, as the images that you are not seeing (while I am) are not tied to my blog, but simple jpg images that I uploaded to this post. I have no idea what keeps causing this, but I think I'll have to give up - for now. So sorry about that!
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attachments aren't working right now. We'll see what we can do about that. It's been a hard week
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LeMark wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:44 pm attachments aren't working right now. We'll see what we can do about that. It's been a hard week
Thanks so much, Mark - I so appreciate the work you and your team do to make this forum available!
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LeMark wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:44 pm attachments aren't working right now. We'll see what we can do about that. It's been a hard week
Also, if it helps to know, I can view the jpg's I attached on the computer from which I loaded them to create this post, but I can't see them on any of my other devices - laptop or iPhone.
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I can’t see the images either.

Dave, are they on your blog? Maybe you can link it……
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