POLL: not for advice, but simply based on curiousity

[bloke]

It's extremely common for tubas to offer lower 4th valve tuning for the third partial, as opposed to the second partial.

examples:

B-flat tuba 4th valve: C flatter than low F
C tuba: D flatter than low G
E-flat tuba: F flatter than low B-flat
F tuba: G flatter than low C

The poll (simply) asks how those (whose instruments feature this tendency) deal with it.

[WC8KCY]

Can the wishnick go in the front pocket of one's tuxedo jacket in lieu of a pocket square?

Asking for a friend.

[bloke]

Can the wishnick go in the front pocket of one's tuxedo jacket in lieu of a pocket square?

Asking for a friend.

It probably would have no effect, unless you were to hook it up to a blue tooth device.

Otherwise, be sure that - just as with a potato - you put it in your front trousers pocket, and never in your back trousers pocket.

[Three Valves]

My wife has a Redskins bobble head wishnick.

I work the tuning slide until it's head stops shaking left to right and begins shaking up and down.

YMMV.

[WC8KCY]

OK, got it.

I assume the Bluetooth device should incorporate a microphone, amplifier, and loudspeaker...and use digital signal processing to emit sound waves out-of-phase to any detected out-of-tune pitch, thus rendering them inaudible ("active noise cancellation").

[jtm]

My choice isn't on the list :(

Tune the upper one to be right and easy. The lower one is really close and lips down easily. C# is sharp, of course, but also easy to lip down. Or play C# as 5-1-2, and lip up a little.

To be honest, I'd probably like a left hand 2nd valve slide trigger.

[tubanh84]

My choice isn't on the list :(

Tune the upper one to be right and easy. The lower one is really close and lips down easily. C# is sharp, of course, but also easy to lip down. Or play C# as 5-1-2, and lip up a little.

To be honest, I'd probably like a left hand 2nd valve slide trigger.

That's about what I do too. Alternate fingering for 2-4 (on mine, it's 1-2-5) for sustained notes. Whatever for fast runs.

Keep the D in tune. Lip the G down. It's easier for me to lip down and keep a good tone than lip up and keep a good tone.

But again, this is all situational. If I had a piece that had 48 G's in a row and a single D somewhere in there, I'd set the slides accordingly.

[Doc]

496 - I rest my left hand on top of the 4th slide - thumb pulls up, palm pushes in.
186 - I do not move the 4th slide or use alternate fingerings
377 - No slide moving on the Eb comper; F is 4, low Bb is 1&3
Symphonie - G is 1-3, C is 4

[hrender]

To be honest, I'd probably like a left hand 2nd valve slide trigger.

Those seem to be more or less stock on the newer Cerveny horns. Not sure if Lidl will continue that feature.

[Bob Kolada]

If you ignore the fact that the only 4 valve instrument I currently own is a comp euph that I take out of the case a few times a year , I've never really noticed this on tubas. I played a 4/4, 4 valve Rudy Bb when I was in Germany that I played C 13 pull and low F 4. 3rd partial F was 13 and I think I had to play E 123 pull. It actually had a 2nd valve kicker but the valves were tight enough I had to stage it, vented valves would have helped; I didn't have that problem with the 1st valve and played it as a 3 valve horn most of time. I just had a better rhythm with slide pulling that way. If it was my horn I would have looked into a 4th valve extension, either E or Eb, to have a usable low C and B.

Every Bb trombone I've played had that though. I think my Kanstul F contra could play G and C on the same spot though, really messed with muscle memory.

[GC]

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