It only took a few years to do this 15-minute cimbasso upgrade
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It only took a few years to do this 15-minute cimbasso upgrade
I could have sworn that I documented this cimbasso build on this website...(??)
Someone monitor find it and paste THIS post on to the end...(or not).
I have been an incredible procrastinator regarding spending fifteen minutes and building a #2 slide stop.
I tend to use this trigger on gigs, because most gigs are guitar/violin-key gigs (featuring generous quantities of F♯s and B♮s)...but (truth be told) those pitches BOTH tune up pretty darn well with the ol' 5-2-3, and the MOST benefit of this trigger is to play the nasty-ol' 5-2-3-4 (stinky sharp) "low G".
Anyway...I'm tired of having to be too careful, there's a new guest 2nd trombonist (particularly fine player) on-board this weekend, and I just don't want to risk (well...) looking like the DOLT that I am, and having the #2 slide fly all the way out.
There-there bloke...
...Now, that wasn't so bad, was it? ...You'll find a way to make up that fifteen minutes of goofing off SOMEHOW/SOMEWHERE...
NORMALLY: left-hand thumb-operated (when actually held in playing position)
>>> https://imgur.com/a/ARztzbB
Sadly (for the Nation), NASA never caught wind of my boundless mechanical genius. We surely would have colonized Neptune, by now.
Someone monitor find it and paste THIS post on to the end...(or not).
I have been an incredible procrastinator regarding spending fifteen minutes and building a #2 slide stop.
I tend to use this trigger on gigs, because most gigs are guitar/violin-key gigs (featuring generous quantities of F♯s and B♮s)...but (truth be told) those pitches BOTH tune up pretty darn well with the ol' 5-2-3, and the MOST benefit of this trigger is to play the nasty-ol' 5-2-3-4 (stinky sharp) "low G".
Anyway...I'm tired of having to be too careful, there's a new guest 2nd trombonist (particularly fine player) on-board this weekend, and I just don't want to risk (well...) looking like the DOLT that I am, and having the #2 slide fly all the way out.
There-there bloke...
...Now, that wasn't so bad, was it? ...You'll find a way to make up that fifteen minutes of goofing off SOMEHOW/SOMEWHERE...
NORMALLY: left-hand thumb-operated (when actually held in playing position)
>>> https://imgur.com/a/ARztzbB
Sadly (for the Nation), NASA never caught wind of my boundless mechanical genius. We surely would have colonized Neptune, by now.
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Re: It only took a few years to do this 15-minute cimbasso upgrade
I set ‘em up; you knock ‘em down.
EDIT:
1. This not-sharp-because-I-can-now-DO-something-about-it "low G" is making me giggle.
2. "The Magnificent Seven Suite" (LOTS of low stuff in the different-valve-combinations range) is HARD on cimbasso - particularly as it's 5-valves-plus-a-trigger, instead of (that to which I'm accustomed in F) six valves.
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Re: It only took a few years to do this 15-minute cimbasso upgrade
One of the DC players on the other forum mentioned playing a 4 valve comp Eb, a 4 valve non comp Eb, a 5 valve Eb and a 3+1 comp Eb. Even thinking about it gives me brain fog.bloke wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:15 pmI set ‘em up; you knock ‘em down.
EDIT:
1. This not-sharp-because-I-can-now-DO-something-about-it "low G" is making me giggle.
2. "The Magnificent Seven Suite" (LOTS of low stuff in the different-valve-combinations range) is HARD on cimbasso - particularly as it's 5-valves-plus-a-trigger, instead of (that to which I'm accustomed in F) six valves.
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Re: It only took a few years to do this 15-minute cimbasso upgrade
I think I might like the cimbasso "barky" resonance on the "Magnificent Seven" piece, but a "big resonant" (Fa'Ba") tuba (as long as the player's attacks - per typical tubaistes - don't lag).
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Re: It only took a few years to do this 15-minute cimbasso upgrade
I really do need to go ahead and shine up the lower portion of this thing and shoot lacquer on it...
This water key guide (after that #2 slide stop) was the last little detail I have been delaying installing (stupid: because it took me two minutes to find four of them, thirty more seconds to pick out the best one, and ten minutes to align/install it).
This water key guide (after that #2 slide stop) was the last little detail I have been delaying installing (stupid: because it took me two minutes to find four of them, thirty more seconds to pick out the best one, and ten minutes to align/install it).
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Re: It only took a few years to do this 15-minute cimbasso upgrade
Now that’s a REAL water key!
Some old Yorks, Martins, and perhaps a King rotary valved CC
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Re: It only took a few years to do this 15-minute cimbasso upgrade
It collects water pretty quickly, and it would be an ordeal to reach way down and press a three-inch lever.
That one comes all the way up to where my left hand can reach it without even moving the instrument - quite high. The straight part going up is over a foot long.
Sometime, I might make a similar one for the #4 slide down there, but it doesn’t collect water as quickly.
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Re: It only took a few years to do this 15-minute cimbasso upgrade
@cjk
> I was able to locate this gadget - on this particular (smaller) instrument precisely where my left hand (thumb, etc.) supports the instrument.
> Serendipitously - unlike FaBast, this instrument does not require any #1 slide manipulation - in order to execute good intonation.
> I was able to locate this gadget - on this particular (smaller) instrument precisely where my left hand (thumb, etc.) supports the instrument.
> Serendipitously - unlike FaBast, this instrument does not require any #1 slide manipulation - in order to execute good intonation.
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Re: It only took a few years to do this 15-minute cimbasso upgrade
2nd valve triggers are almost always cjk approved.bloke wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:49 pm @cjk
> I was able to locate this gadget - on this particular (smaller) instrument precisely where my left hand (thumb, etc.) supports the instrument.
> Serendipitously - unlike FaBast, this instrument does not require any #1 slide manipulation - in order to execute good intonation.
My big RM has one note where I want to move the first valve slide so I do understand the struggle. :)
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Re: It only took a few years to do this 15-minute cimbasso upgrade
The big 98 asks for the first slide to mostly be between 1 and 1-3/4 inches out (the farthest out being C, which I choose to play with 1-3)…
… but fifth partial C and B natural need that slide all the way in.
Luckily, open D is right up to pitch, so no typical/inconvenient sixth partial fingerings.
back to the original topic:
Being redundant, the tuba rarely plays any type of solo in a symphony orchestra. I receive my gratification from nice ringing in-tune chords, which is why I’m so interested in not having to favor (nor certainly not compromise) the tuning of any pitches.
… but fifth partial C and B natural need that slide all the way in.
Luckily, open D is right up to pitch, so no typical/inconvenient sixth partial fingerings.
back to the original topic:
Being redundant, the tuba rarely plays any type of solo in a symphony orchestra. I receive my gratification from nice ringing in-tune chords, which is why I’m so interested in not having to favor (nor certainly not compromise) the tuning of any pitches.