New Equivalent of Olds 099-4?

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Re: New Equivalent of Olds 099-4?

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MShores wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:03 pm
BuddyRogersMusic wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:22 pm Miraphone 1271 (or something like that) is described as a 7/8 size piston tuba in BBb. We have one on consignment. Decent horn but steep price for what it is with other competitors more attractively priced (JP, Eastman, Jupiter).
What JP, Eastman, Jupiter models compare?

Also, the idea of another Olds or Bach that doesn’t have shot valves and other issues is appealing, but I was curious about what is out there that is readily available. That way if timing and funding don’t line up with a vintage instrument, I would know what to explore.

Thanks for all the info so far!
These are about the size of the Yamaha 621; JP179, Eastman 226, this one, a little bigger, Jupiter JTU 1110


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Re: New Equivalent of Olds 099-4?

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The Big Ben wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:16 pm
BuddyRogersMusic wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:22 pm Miraphone 1271 (or something like that) is described as a 7/8 size piston tuba in BBb. We have one on consignment. Decent horn but steep price for what it is with other competitors more attractively priced (JP, Eastman, Jupiter).
I looked for this on your website and could not find it. Is it listed?
No, we don't have it listed, and our website is a work in progress. I'll get some pics and details on Monday.
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if you are still looking, there is a bach on facebook marketplace right now https://www.facebook.com/groups/258968318718414/
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Re: New Equivalent of Olds 099-4?

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To the original topic, this person has a 4-valve Bach generation version of the Olds O-99-4, and for a fairly low price.


https://www.facebook.com/clayton.wachho ... tid=ZbWKwL
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bloke wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:00 pm To the original topic, this person has a 4-valve Bach generation version of the Olds O-99-4, and for a fairly low price.


https://www.facebook.com/clayton.wachho ... tid=ZbWKwL
Clayton told me last night his Bach is no longer available.
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Consider the JP 379B. I just bought one but haven't touched it yet. It's a relatively large bore 3/4 BBb which looks a lot like a Piggy. I'm expecting good things when it gets here.
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BuddyRogersMusic wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:22 pm Miraphone 1271 (or something like that) is described as a 7/8 size piston tuba in BBb. We have one on consignment. Decent horn but steep price for what it is with other competitors more attractively priced (JP, Eastman, Jupiter).
I had the 3v version (1270) and while OK, it was nothing spectacular. I played it side by side with my Olds 099-4 and much preferred the Olds.
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Re: New Equivalent of Olds 099-4?

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MN_TimTuba wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:37 am
bloke wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:00 pm To the original topic, this person has a 4-valve Bach generation version of the Olds O-99-4, and for a fairly low price.


https://www.facebook.com/clayton.wachho ... tid=ZbWKwL
Clayton told me last night his Bach is no longer available.
Tim

He just listed it again 18 minutes ago
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Re: New Equivalent of Olds 099-4?

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When I was looking for a horn I could bring into a large ensemble, I was looking for a 5J. I also thought it would be a good overall replacement for the 12J. I ended up with the Kanstul 900-4B, which is a huge horn, comparatively.

And I'm glad I did it. That 12J, after tweaks over the years, is perfect for commercial gigs, especially where I'm standing or strolling. It's super light and punchy, and I don't think a 4th valve would add any benefit for what I do when I'm playing the majority of my gigs.

That all being said, if I wanted to replace the 12J with a four-valve instrument, I'd go either 5J or a Yamaha YBB-621...but I think it's kind of a pricey horn for what you get.
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