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I was eyeing that. I think it's actually an F or Eb. Not enough guts to get to BBb. @TheBerlinerTuba, any info on this?
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I'll put my nickel on BBb. Ah, I mistook some valve tubing in back for main bugle. Maybe Eb then.
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I vote Eb
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My Ukrainian kopiika is on F. Looks kinda like a Scherzer with the short horizontal MTS , but the braces are Alexander-y.
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Well, someone grabbed the Migma. Let's hope it wasn't exposed to magma. And there's an off-color joke or two buried somewhere in that name, but I'm not gonna touch it.
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Not a Migma, but another vintage horn here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166397937924
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hrender wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:58 am Not a Migma, but another vintage horn here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166397937924
Now that is definitely a vintage BBb!

Looks like a very no-frills/un-fancy B&S/"Sonora"/"Meister Gerhard Schneider."
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I'd say it's a "Weltklang" stencil, since it doesn't have a kranz. ISTR that was their "student model". Still the same basic B&S 101, should be a good player.

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Heavy_Metal wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:33 pm I'd say it's a "Weltklang" stencil, since it doesn't have a kranz. ISTR that was their "student model". Still the same basic B&S 101, should be a good player.

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Ja, danke. No kranz, and no nickel silver at all, even the ferrules and whatnot.
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arpthark wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:15 am … and no nickel silver at all, even the ferrules and whatnot.
I must be spoiled for taking those things (and whatnots) for granted.
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Hard to say without the dimensions. An Eb or F for sure, but need the length of the 2nd valve circuit to confirm which key.
Based on the bracing and thumbring I would bet on Knoth or Wunderlich as the maker but it could be Horst Voigt as well. Not a huge difference either way... :eyes:
arpthark wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:13 am I was eyeing that. I think it's actually an F or Eb. Not enough guts to get to BBb. @TheBerlinerTuba, any info on this?
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