looking towards making this thing useful (as no one seems interested in buying it)
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looking towards making this thing useful (as no one seems interested in buying it)
I have a mint condition William Bell Model (Meinl-Weston) detachable bell with - amazingly - the original hard case (same condition).
I've offered it for sale to William Bell Model owners, but (even though their oem bells are likely worn/repaired) no one (so far) is interested in buying it.
The male collar is TAPERED and the small end measures 6-9/16" (with a small amount of expansion).
If/since no one is interested in buying it, I'm looking into exploring my own uses (as so many vintage Miraphone 186 tubas feature hopelessly trashed bells).
I found a lower (cut off) portion of a Miraphone 186 bell upstairs.
The large end of that piece-of-a-186-bell is just about the same diameter (just under 6-1/2") as the small end of the Meinl-Weston detachable bell.
If anyone has a TAPERED female receiver that would fit this bell (or a LOWER BELL PART WITH the tapered receiver that would fit this bell) I might have something usable.
With the Miraphone bell section fragment that I found, it's nearly as long as a stock 186 bell, so (with a good-fitting tapered receiver) I would have something here that I could use for something...(??)
...so - I suppose - I'm asking about JUST THE RIGHT SIZE of tapered receiver ...OR...that receiver AND the lower bell part attached to it.
The HEIGHT of the tenon (as I've already given the small-end dimension) is about 1-1/4 inches (probably TALLER than those ancient Miraphone "recording bass" female tenons...EVEN IF the size and taper were to match up.
I've offered it for sale to William Bell Model owners, but (even though their oem bells are likely worn/repaired) no one (so far) is interested in buying it.
The male collar is TAPERED and the small end measures 6-9/16" (with a small amount of expansion).
If/since no one is interested in buying it, I'm looking into exploring my own uses (as so many vintage Miraphone 186 tubas feature hopelessly trashed bells).
I found a lower (cut off) portion of a Miraphone 186 bell upstairs.
The large end of that piece-of-a-186-bell is just about the same diameter (just under 6-1/2") as the small end of the Meinl-Weston detachable bell.
If anyone has a TAPERED female receiver that would fit this bell (or a LOWER BELL PART WITH the tapered receiver that would fit this bell) I might have something usable.
With the Miraphone bell section fragment that I found, it's nearly as long as a stock 186 bell, so (with a good-fitting tapered receiver) I would have something here that I could use for something...(??)
...so - I suppose - I'm asking about JUST THE RIGHT SIZE of tapered receiver ...OR...that receiver AND the lower bell part attached to it.
The HEIGHT of the tenon (as I've already given the small-end dimension) is about 1-1/4 inches (probably TALLER than those ancient Miraphone "recording bass" female tenons...EVEN IF the size and taper were to match up.
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- York-aholic (Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:55 pm)
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Re: looking towards making this thing useful (as no one seems interested in buying it)
That MW bell has a sizeable throat, or very little pancake in comparison. I like it. I wish I had something to use it with.
A Marzan perhaps? I wouldn't mind stumbling across a BBb piston Marzan.
A Marzan perhaps? I wouldn't mind stumbling across a BBb piston Marzan.
Some old Yorks, Martins, and perhaps a King rotary valved CC
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Re: looking towards making this thing useful (as no one seems interested in buying it)
I'd buy the Bell, if I already had the William sitting around.
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Re: looking towards making this thing useful (as no one seems interested in buying it)
What's the foundation for that logic?
You must be a tuba and sousaphone player.
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Re: looking towards making this thing useful (as no one seems interested in buying it)
The Harvey Phillips Foundation?
Anyway... I like those old Bell Model CC tubas. They are a lot like a 186, but surprisingly, with a better low register and higher output before it gets all blatty and stuff. And surprisingly, the MW has a smaller bore.
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Re: looking towards making this thing useful (as no one seems interested in buying it)
I find it really interesting that Eb is listed first, then C (and not CC), and then Bb (and not BBb).
Also interesting if you zoom way in, I forgot about that part!
Also interesting if you zoom way in, I forgot about that part!
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Re: looking towards making this thing useful (as no one seems interested in buying it)
Stop posting and go practice your sneeze.
Re: looking towards making this thing useful (as no one seems interested in buying it)
Deep cut, i.e. "Hold that Tiger."
I have that book. It goes from 0-60 in about 20pp.
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Re: looking towards making this thing useful (as no one seems interested in buying it)
I understood that reference
Yep, I'm Mark