Sold: Miraphone 181 first version
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Sold: Miraphone 181 first version
SOLD: 1st version (I think) of the Miraphone 181 rotary F tuba. This is the version that looks a lot like a PT-15 (I said PT-10, but bloke corrected me elsewhere).
I've had this tuba since January, 2023. I started on F tuba a few months before that, and this tuba solved all the tuning problems I'd had with my previous rotary F. Most notably, the C in the staff (3rd partial) is in tune with the rest of the series. The low end is strong, low C has a good slot, and pedals are easy.
About 39" tall. Bell is 400mm (15.75"). Bore is the same as a 186 or 188: about 19.6mm through all five valves. 1st and 5th rotors are vented. 5th valve is a long whole step.
The finish is raw brass. There are some water spots all over and some tiny dents on the bottom bow guard (see pictures). The rotors are fast and sealed, and the slides are all easy. Someone replaced the original valve linkages (off-white plastic tips), but they'll be included. For a 40 year old tuba, it looks pretty terrific. I cannot find a serial number, so I can't give an exact age. The bell wreath is nice, but it does not have any engraved lettering. The only brand label is the MIRAFONE bell marking. The bottom bow looks to be made from sheet brass. The lead pipe is removable and in perfect condition.
This is SOLD, now, but it was listed at $4800. It's near Austin, TX.
Here it is (on the left) next to a B&S Symphonie F, for size comparison and to show how similar the layouts are.
More pictures: here
I've had this tuba since January, 2023. I started on F tuba a few months before that, and this tuba solved all the tuning problems I'd had with my previous rotary F. Most notably, the C in the staff (3rd partial) is in tune with the rest of the series. The low end is strong, low C has a good slot, and pedals are easy.
About 39" tall. Bell is 400mm (15.75"). Bore is the same as a 186 or 188: about 19.6mm through all five valves. 1st and 5th rotors are vented. 5th valve is a long whole step.
The finish is raw brass. There are some water spots all over and some tiny dents on the bottom bow guard (see pictures). The rotors are fast and sealed, and the slides are all easy. Someone replaced the original valve linkages (off-white plastic tips), but they'll be included. For a 40 year old tuba, it looks pretty terrific. I cannot find a serial number, so I can't give an exact age. The bell wreath is nice, but it does not have any engraved lettering. The only brand label is the MIRAFONE bell marking. The bottom bow looks to be made from sheet brass. The lead pipe is removable and in perfect condition.
This is SOLD, now, but it was listed at $4800. It's near Austin, TX.
Here it is (on the left) next to a B&S Symphonie F, for size comparison and to show how similar the layouts are.
More pictures: here
Last edited by jtm on Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:39 pm, edited 5 times in total.
John Morris
This practicing trick actually seems to be working!
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Re: FS: Miraphone 181 first version
Well, the link to more pictures isn't working for me, so here they are inline.
Sorry there's not more of the dog here.
This shows the wreath with the little dots along the inside edge, but no lettering.
It's new enough that it didn't have S-links for the rotors and, happily, it doesn't have a sharp keel.
There's speculation in a thread about F tuba intonation that the problem with the mid C being super sharp can be helped by separating the mouth pipe from the bell. This one is only attached in a couple places, whether or not that's important.
Here it is (left) again with the B&S Symphonie, from the back.
Sorry there's not more of the dog here.
This shows the wreath with the little dots along the inside edge, but no lettering.
It's new enough that it didn't have S-links for the rotors and, happily, it doesn't have a sharp keel.
There's speculation in a thread about F tuba intonation that the problem with the mid C being super sharp can be helped by separating the mouth pipe from the bell. This one is only attached in a couple places, whether or not that's important.
Here it is (left) again with the B&S Symphonie, from the back.
John Morris
This practicing trick actually seems to be working!
playing some old German rotary tubas for free
This practicing trick actually seems to be working!
playing some old German rotary tubas for free
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Re: FS: Miraphone 181 first version
Certainly a handsome tuba!
Photos show up fine for me in both posts. I wish I was in a position to take it off your hands!
Photos show up fine for me in both posts. I wish I was in a position to take it off your hands!
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Re: FS: Miraphone 181 first version
Pretty horn!
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PT-18p (MRP)
JP 274 MKII
For sale
Laskey 30G, American shank https://tubaforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=9 ... 2f1502a4d7
Giddings Baer CC Euro shank https://tubaforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=96137#p96137
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Re: FS: Miraphone 181 first version
Hi!
I'm interested and cannot seem to send you a private message.
I'm interested and cannot seem to send you a private message.
Ephrem King
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Miraphone 181 (1st edition)
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Miraphone 181 (1st edition)
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Re: FS: Miraphone 181 first version
@King Ephrem
John's as solid/trustworthy as they come, and you probably can't use private messaging until you've posted here for a while.
My email is shown below...
I'm willing for you to send me an email, which I am willing to forward to John (with your email address showing.)
That avoids either of you having to publicly reveal your email addresses.
John's as solid/trustworthy as they come, and you probably can't use private messaging until you've posted here for a while.
My email is shown below...
I'm willing for you to send me an email, which I am willing to forward to John (with your email address showing.)
That avoids either of you having to publicly reveal your email addresses.
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Re: FS: Miraphone 181 first version
Thanks so much, bloke. I’ve also sent a PM with an email for me that should work, in case they can get PMs.
John Morris
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Re: FS: Miraphone 181 first version
bloke wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:06 pm @King Ephrem
John's as solid/trustworthy as they come, and you probably can't use private messaging until you've posted here for a while.
My email is shown below...
I'm willing for you to send me an email, which I am willing to forward to John (with your email address showing.)
That avoids either of you having to publicly reveal your email addresses.
Thanks Bloke! I was able to receive a message with John's email. So all is figured out.
Thank you for working to make sure that we were able to connect.
Ephrem King
MW 2165 CC
Miraphone 181 (1st edition)
MW 2165 CC
Miraphone 181 (1st edition)
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Re: Sold: Miraphone 181 first version
This is sold and all packed up. If I can get Shippo to work (instead of just teasing me), I'll be happier than with retail UPS rates, but either way it's going out tomorrow. I'm hopeful it'll be more fun to play well than the Alex that it's replacing.
John Morris
This practicing trick actually seems to be working!
playing some old German rotary tubas for free
This practicing trick actually seems to be working!
playing some old German rotary tubas for free