Original Besson alligator case
- arpthark
- Posts: 3899
- Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:25 pm
- Location: Southeastern Connecticut
- Has thanked: 951 times
- Been thanked: 1067 times
- Contact:
Original Besson alligator case
I was very lucky to find a nice, mid-1970s Besson New Standard euph several months ago. Raw brass, large-shank receiver, put in a closet for several years and not played, valve plating in very good shape, etc. "Closet queen," sure. Sweet horn, love it, despite the tuning quirks. It came with a heavy aftermarket DEG case that I could do without.
Randomly, a few weeks ago, I was happy to find on Reverb a junk Besson New Standard body (that I am going to use as a donor horn) complete with the original alligator skin case. Besson carcass goes into the parts pile, my Besson goes into the original case, and the DEG case goes to a lucky TubaForum member who needs it.
Randomly, a few weeks ago, I was happy to find on Reverb a junk Besson New Standard body (that I am going to use as a donor horn) complete with the original alligator skin case. Besson carcass goes into the parts pile, my Besson goes into the original case, and the DEG case goes to a lucky TubaForum member who needs it.
Blake
Bean Hill Brass
Bean Hill Brass
-
- Posts: 740
- Joined: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:00 am
- Location: Intergalactic Space
- Has thanked: 6 times
- Been thanked: 142 times
Re: Original Besson alligator case
Is it actual Alligator?
Was that the standard case or was that an additional charge option for the upgraded case from Besson?
I’d imagine that covering (if actual alligator) wears a lot better than the stuff on the black cases. Did they offer alligator covered cases for tubas as well?
I’ve got a 1970 New Standard Comp Besson tuba with the original black covered case. I’ve never seen one for a tuba in an alligator covered case. Bet you couldn’t sell those new these days without causing an uproar from the activists & government.
Was that the standard case or was that an additional charge option for the upgraded case from Besson?
I’d imagine that covering (if actual alligator) wears a lot better than the stuff on the black cases. Did they offer alligator covered cases for tubas as well?
I’ve got a 1970 New Standard Comp Besson tuba with the original black covered case. I’ve never seen one for a tuba in an alligator covered case. Bet you couldn’t sell those new these days without causing an uproar from the activists & government.
- arpthark
- Posts: 3899
- Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:25 pm
- Location: Southeastern Connecticut
- Has thanked: 951 times
- Been thanked: 1067 times
- Contact:
Re: Original Besson alligator case
It's probably not actual alligator, but I love the retro look and the original Besson brass plate! I'll get it on Saturday.
Blake
Bean Hill Brass
Bean Hill Brass
- bloke
- Mid South Music
- Posts: 19285
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
- Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
- Has thanked: 3841 times
- Been thanked: 4086 times
Re: Original Besson alligator case
You know me...
Were we closer to each other, I'd be over checking out that case...
It's probably too short for my fancier/larger euphonium.
I put my euphonia in plain cases...
ie. "That can't be a very fancy horn; check out that blah case." (etc.)
Come to think of it, that case is too fancy.
Were we closer to each other, I'd be over checking out that case...
It's probably too short for my fancier/larger euphonium.
I put my euphonia in plain cases...
ie. "That can't be a very fancy horn; check out that blah case." (etc.)
Come to think of it, that case is too fancy.
- arpthark
- Posts: 3899
- Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:25 pm
- Location: Southeastern Connecticut
- Has thanked: 951 times
- Been thanked: 1067 times
- Contact:
Re: Original Besson alligator case
Results:
- faux alligator/crocodile
- school name scrawled on top of case (not visible in listing photos) in metallic permanent marker
- "lip" of case is likely cardboard and is fraying in spots
However,
- really nice plush interior
- cool Besson nameplate
- body of Besson euph that came with this might be a little nicer than my current one. I'll see if I can swap the valves and such and see which one plays better. Mine is a mid-70s model with large shank, and this one is a mid-60s model with the medium Euro shank.
- faux alligator/crocodile
- school name scrawled on top of case (not visible in listing photos) in metallic permanent marker
- "lip" of case is likely cardboard and is fraying in spots
However,
- really nice plush interior
- cool Besson nameplate
- body of Besson euph that came with this might be a little nicer than my current one. I'll see if I can swap the valves and such and see which one plays better. Mine is a mid-70s model with large shank, and this one is a mid-60s model with the medium Euro shank.
Blake
Bean Hill Brass
Bean Hill Brass
- the elephant
- Posts: 3378
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:39 am
- Location: 404 - Not Found
- Has thanked: 1896 times
- Been thanked: 1335 times
Re: Original Besson alligator case
That Army sticker was in use from about 1978 through 1988 (or thereabouts)...
My mom had one on her car's bumper while I was on active duty. (85-88)
My mom had one on her car's bumper while I was on active duty. (85-88)
- kingrob76
- Posts: 635
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:24 am
- Location: Reston, VA
- Has thanked: 49 times
- Been thanked: 186 times
Re: Original Besson alligator case
I grew up not far from the school referenced on the case, and with the same phone exchange (894) in an adjacent school territory. I found spring concert programs from 1974 and 1975 and the listed owner isn't in the programs. I'll bet that case pre-dates 1974 but the school didn't open until the 1966.
Rob. Just Rob.
- arpthark
- Posts: 3899
- Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:25 pm
- Location: Southeastern Connecticut
- Has thanked: 951 times
- Been thanked: 1067 times
- Contact:
Re: Original Besson alligator case
Rubbing alcohol is getting the metallic permanent marker off the top of the case.
Not sure I want to keep the Potomac Royals sticker on, but I'm worried I'll damage the leather.
Not sure I want to keep the Potomac Royals sticker on, but I'm worried I'll damage the leather.
Blake
Bean Hill Brass
Bean Hill Brass
Re: Original Besson alligator case
I’ve had incredibly good luck getting odd things off of surfaces with Clorox wipes. Sounds weird, but it works. Information gathered during the recent pandemic!
- arpthark
- Posts: 3899
- Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:25 pm
- Location: Southeastern Connecticut
- Has thanked: 951 times
- Been thanked: 1067 times
- Contact:
Re: Original Besson alligator case
A bit (okay, a lot) of alcohol and (per the non-fancy tools thread) a drink coaster used as a makeshift scraper and I got all the stickers off this thing.
Now to find just a little bit of faux croc and some glue to get the frayed spots down.
Now to find just a little bit of faux croc and some glue to get the frayed spots down.
Blake
Bean Hill Brass
Bean Hill Brass