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Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 6:21 am
by bloke
The post office says that they are having trouble with their automatic tracking notifications and they're trying to fix it.

... so the two reasons I'm asking are that I would like for everyone to be able to know when their stuff arrives, and I'm also curious whether the post office has fixed their problem.

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:26 pm
by Pauvog1
bloke wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 9:54 am Are y'all getting your tracking numbers emailed to you?
I didn't yet.

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 6:07 pm
by bloke
yeah...
Y'all might not get tracking...just mouthpieces. :smilie6:
I put everyone down for it, though.

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:49 am
by LittleJon1
LittleJon1 wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:56 pm I received a tracking #
Tracking shows mine has been delivered.

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:02 pm
by Pauvog1
bloke wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 6:07 pm yeah...
Y'all might not get tracking...just mouthpieces. :smilie6:
I put everyone down for it, though.
That works for me!

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:16 pm
by tadawson
Got mine today! No chance to play it yet, but it "shore is purdy" :hearteyes:

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:01 pm
by bloke
The design of this mouthpiece is based on the "less is more" slogan... though no, it's not a shallow cup mouthpiece... Just not an overblown regular-deep cup mouthpiece.
It's interesting though - as since players play on such different equipment - that a few people are going to tell me that they're going to have to get used to how much larger it is (yet they claim to like it).
This is no criticism of anyone, but it's still fascinating, and a reminder of how different all of the things are that are called tubas and tuba mouthpieces.

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:38 pm
by Willys
When do you anticipate another run of these? I sure would like to give one a try.

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 6:25 pm
by bloke
Willys wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:38 pm When do you anticipate another run of these? I sure would like to give one a try.
I'm forming a list now, if you would just please email me with your name address phone, I'll add you to the list.

I'll do good communication with people when I'm ready to run another batch.

Even if I end up having our credit card processor send you a secure link to pay and you change your mind at the last moment, you can just ignore the link.

I'm grateful for everyone's interest.

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:40 pm
by the elephant
Okay, more unsolicited observations for Joe's new mouthpiece. (I hope you don't mind, @bloke…)

I have spent some time with it on my two BATs.

Yamaha VCB-826

Very good, overall, but this tuba wants a large, open mouthpiece, wide, deep, with a large throat. However, this mouthpiece hurts nothing whatsoever and I could take in to a gig today with no preparation on this tuba because

1. this tuba plays great with anything stuck in the small end, and

2. this mouthpiece works in everything I have tried it with, so far (about eight tubas in all four keys), so

No issues, there, but I will not be using this paring for work.

Holton 345

This tuba benefits from the focus a tighter throat gives, likes smaller mouthpieces, also like bigger ones, but has the weird pitch tendancies of a homemade tuba (Rusk-cut, in this case, and heavily corrected by me) so that moving the tuning slide seems to alter the intonation tendancies β€” in some cases by an alarming, drastic, not-at-all-in-my-head amount. I have a long list of surmises regarding this and have more or less figured out how to work around this with this tuba so that it has some of the best intonation of a 6/4 tuba I have ever encountered. VERY LITTLE HAS TO BE "DONE" TO IT WHEN YOU PLAY.

Being said, this mouthpiece lights this horn up nicely, AND DOES NOT SEEM TO "F" WITH THE PITCH, other than requiring me to pull out a little bit as compared with the mouthpiece I had been using.

As with the Kurath, I had to move all my slides around as it makes the overtones seem to line up differently, so that it is easier to hear some pitches that were a little nebulous. It drives some pitches up and some down, but once accounted for it seems to be much better and easier to handle, requiring even less work from me to drive at Interstate speeds.

It has this thing (for me with my chops and ears) where it makes out of center notes FAR MORE EASY TO HEAR as such. The Holton tends to make everything sound the same, whether centered well or not. It is very friendly in this regard. Joe's mouthpiece is the opposite for me in this tuba: if you are not centered very well it bives me this timbre whereby I know it is out, fiddle with fingerings or slides, fix it, and move on.

I guess it slots more tightly on this tuba/leadpipe? (Sorry, I am not very good at describing this specific issue.) I am very pleased. After about fifteen rather alarming minutes I fell in love with this combination and WILL be switching the Holton over to this mouthpiece. Now I need a second one for it as this one belongs to my Kurath.

I still have to give it an extended test drive on the Mirafone 186, but that will have to wait until Summer begins.

I am happily surprised. I love his Symphony on the 186, and used my first-batch, prototype, one-piece "Solo" on the Holton for many years. I think he has said that the "OG" is a larger version of the "Solo", and the Holton stoped loving the "Solo" after this most recent leadpipe was installed. I am tickled that this moderately blown up Solo seems to be the ticket for this huge tuba. The original OG was very good, too, but the "OGU" works even better, with more consistent intonation and a very focused low range the "OG" does not quite match on my odd duck Holton. And I have finally.ly become fully adapted to the rim. I like it a lot, especially on the Kurath.

Adios!

:tuba:

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 2:59 pm
by bloke
I still don't know a whole bunch about mouthpieces...

Someone here chided me for not being scientific.

I believe there's way too much science (physics) involved (and too many player/instrument/time-of-day/whether-or-not-sick-or-ate-too-much variables to get any sort of handle on science).

If I've learned anything over the years, it's that way more of any particular "something" ("something" that works on really good mouthpieces) will probably screw up everything.

I believe (??) I've learned that 9mm and 9mm+ throats only require more effort (even for "heroes") and really don't offer anything much in return...

I also may have discovered that even a bit under the "classic" 8.2mm throat size (particularly if the shape leading INTO the throat is - somehow...?? - "good") is still plenty-large (for most everything).

Some people have narrow and pointed-to-the-front faces, and +/- 33mm lips-openings are going to be difficult for those people to control...and - for smaller instruments (such as really-not-tubas - ie. these "cimbasso" things) - 33mm is probably just too big for anyone...but - otoh - I try to remember that alto saxophone mouthpieces and baritone saxophone mouthpieces are not in the same size range as alto sax mouthpieces, the same for English horn reeds, vs. bassoon reeds vs. oboe reeds, and so forth...REGARDLESS of the size of the person.

I also have settled on narrow-but-not-sharp-edged rims (at least for myself). I don't see why tuba rims need to all that much wider than trombone rims...After all, we ALREADY have more surface area on our faces (vs. trombone) simply because of the circumference, and (I believe...??) wide rims and sharp-cornered rims "pin down" our faces - when we probably need the opposite - as (unlike any other brass instrument playing) our front teeth opening ranges from closed up as much as trumpet players' teeth to (fortissimo lowest range) 5/16" apart, and something (likely, the mouthpiece position on the face) has got to give, so a rim that can SLIDE (without giving us blisters) might be a good thing.

oh well...blah-blah-blah...

Get a Bach 18.

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:20 pm
by tadawson
FYI, first chance to play this today. Not long, but it seems like this mouthpiece and my 1977-ish B-flat 186 really get along. Most mouthpieces I have tried either give me low range or high (but not both). Best so far has been my Mira TU-29, and this seems far better. Even prior to warming up, I get a far better range and far easier to hit notes than anything else. More when I have more time . . .

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:56 pm
by arpthark
It’s a really, really good fit with my 6/4 BBb.

Re: Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 10:11 pm
by bloke
F sharp in the staff is a bit treacherous with B flat tubas, because that's nearly as much cylindrical tubing as the fourth valve on a C instrument. It's particularly treacherous with a six quarter size instrument - and even more treacherous when the bore size is "kaiser". Admittedly I've got an advantage in that my F sharp in the staff on my 6/4 B flat is in tune with the slides in their default positions, but I'm not having to be extra careful playing that pitch with this mouthpiece. Of course I like all sorts of other things about this mouthpiece - which is why I went ahead and had a bunch of them made and offered them for sale, but that's just one good thing about this mouthpiece. Besides all the nice things that have been said, it seems to work on different sized instruments. I'm not sure that I would use it on an F instrument myself, but it's doing really well on two very different contrabass instruments, and if I tried it on my big compensating E-flat, I would predict that it would perform well on it as well, but I'm not willing to swap out the 1950s English small shank receiver on that instrument.

This is the most carefree I've been playing the Miraphone 98, and it's not just because I'm getting used to the tuba.

Hey friends (and detractors alike πŸ™„), I'm really trying to dig myself out of covid debt from propping up couple of my adult children during that time who don't do particularly well for themselves. If you could help me promote this mouthpiece so that I could sell some more of them, I'd be very grateful. :bow2: