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Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:14 pm
by bloke
BINGO ! 
I just received an email from the gig-meister (contractor) that the
Hallelujah Chorus will be played in the
CORRECT key, rather than in (sheesh!
) this brass quintet arrangement key (D-flat).
Thank goodness...'
WAY easier button-mashing.
Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:05 pm
by Three Valves
Ah Heckle, Jeckle. Even I could play that one. And I wouldn’t beeotch about the key signature either!!
Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:27 pm
by bloke
Three Valves wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:05 pm
Ah Heckle, Jeckle. Even I could play that one. And I wouldn’t beeotch about the key signature either!!
yeah...but "easy tuning" is an issue,
if the goal is "spot on AND absolutely centered".
2-3 pitches are suck-ish on most brass instruments (including many B-flat tubas).
2-4 pitches suck on ALL brass instruments (sharp, without pulling on some slide), whereas 5-2-3 is FLAT (ref: tubas that are C-length)
D-flat major is a "good" key for a GOOD E-flat tuba, but I ain't draggin' two or three instruments to an Easter gig...particularly not a two-locations one.
bloke "the other people on the email list are 'hot-shots', so I (a lowly toobuh-guy) had best do (well...) my best...as I am wont to do...
...but
Hallelujah Chorus in D-flat major is just plain
DUMB...as
DUMB as the key of that old band transcription of Berlioz'
Rákóczi March 
"
Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:03 pm
by Three Valves
Prima donnas.
Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:47 pm
by bloke
well, no...
They’re just damn good players, who never post blather - as do I.
Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:57 pm
by bloke
1. It just occurred to me that IF England was one of the places where (during Handel's time) A was tuned at 415 hz, then the D-flat arrangement is (gulp) correct.
2. whoa...
It looks like this might be where you can tabulate my screw-ups on Sunday.
https://calvarymemphis.org/worship-2/livestream/
Be sure and have a few buddies with you, and y'all all need to take off your shoes, so you won't run out of fingers and toes...
bloke "
The Trumpet Shall Sound is 9 minutes long...PLENTY of time for PLENTY of screw-ups"
Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:26 pm
by Three Valves
What makes you think I was talking about “them??”
Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:08 am
by bloke
Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:50 pm
by Heavy_Metal
We've played Craig Garner's brass/organ arrangement of this, which is in the correct key and either the tuba, euph or trombone can carry the melody. It's the only one we play where I take the solo part. Unfortunately, we won't be playing it this year, but maybe next.......
Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:25 am
by bloke
D is better...D-flat (with A=440 tuning) is originally/aurally correct.
I'd play it on the baritone, if in D or D-flat.
We ran it (first thing) yesterday at a mid-afternoon rehearsal...' went fine.
' finally met Bruce Faske (Arkansas State trombone guru - from Texas) in-person...' great guy/fine player, and very easy with whom to match tuning.
I'll be heading out in a hour for the 11 A.M. C.S.T. outdoor service - at one of the Depression-era-built "shell" venues.
Hallelujah Chorus arr. (which we are playing in D-major)...
The tuba part is too busy, doubling too many trombone figures that are not original in the lowest voice...I circled several figures, so that it sounds better, I also just friggin' changed some of the figures.
Wade would have done (could do) a much better job of arranging it.
It may well (??) be a good idea to have double parts (D-flat and D) JUST IN CASE the brass players (albeit not baroque instruments) are brought - in conjunction with some sort of "authentic Baroque" performance.
Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:07 pm
by bloke
The temperature out there wasn’t even quite 70, but the direct sunlight rendered my instruments hot to the touch, and hot air chimneyed out of their mouthpipes.
I pulled out the F tuba tuning slide about an inch, and the euphonium‘s slide about 5/8 inch, which were apparently pretty good guesses, because I wasn’t hearing any “wah-wah‘s” between my instruments and the others.
A Blues Brothers hat and sunglasses would have been handy.
... Now, for some Easter treats:
a stop at Walmart - on the way home, to pick up some Mac’s pork rinds… Yum Yum !!!
Re: The Tuba Shall Make Some Sounds
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:58 pm
by djwpe
bloke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:25 am
D is better...D-flat (with A=440 tuning) is originally/aurally correct.
I'd play it on the baritone, if in D or D-flat.
We ran it (first thing) yesterday at a mid-afternoon rehearsal...' went fine.
' finally met Bruce Faske (Arkansas State trombone guru - from Texas) in-person...' great guy/fine player, and very easy with whom to match tuning.
I'll be heading out in a hour for the 11 A.M. C.S.T. outdoor service - at one of the Depression-era-built "shell" venues.
Hallelujah Chorus arr. (which we are playing in D-major)...
The tuba part is too busy, doubling too many trombone figures that are not original in the lowest voice...I circled several figures, so that it sounds better, I also just friggin' changed some of the figures.
Wade would have done (could do) a much better job of arranging it.
It may well (??) be a good idea to have double parts (D-flat and D) JUST IN CASE the brass players (albeit not baroque instruments) are brought - in conjunction with some sort of "authentic Baroque" performance.
Bruce is a great guy. I met him when he was taking his DMA at Alabama and I was down there visitin’.
Don
