Since i have a plethora of your components, I'm interested in this info, too. The C4 really seems to work on my 186 - but I hate the brass!
Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
off topic?
The new thing that I'll be offering is silver plated brass and it's not modular, but it's even shallower than a C4 and the throat is even smaller. It's not going to be offered with a big wide rounded rim, but with a rim that I personally like.
So far, I've determined that it's really good on a cimbasso and on a really small tuba. If I find that it's useful for more things, I'll report that as well.
@Stryk
Maybe, this mouthpiece would work on your little Jinbao model 80 F tuba knockoff, but maybe that instrument's hopeless...??
I think I might be testing it on tubas like 5J, O-99, and similar and smaller instruments. It could prove to be something that trombone people who double on tuba would like.
The new thing that I'll be offering is silver plated brass and it's not modular, but it's even shallower than a C4 and the throat is even smaller. It's not going to be offered with a big wide rounded rim, but with a rim that I personally like.
So far, I've determined that it's really good on a cimbasso and on a really small tuba. If I find that it's useful for more things, I'll report that as well.
@Stryk
Maybe, this mouthpiece would work on your little Jinbao model 80 F tuba knockoff, but maybe that instrument's hopeless...??
I think I might be testing it on tubas like 5J, O-99, and similar and smaller instruments. It could prove to be something that trombone people who double on tuba would like.
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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
Which set of Sellmansberger parts comes close to a TU-23? I have a Symphony, and that seems to not be it.
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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
Probably a solo cup, a solo number zero standard shank, and a WM profile rim in one of the medium cup opening sizes.
With apologies for the way that it came out, because it was voice texted, but I need to set this phone down and go do something else rather than correcting it.
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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
William Morris played it and said that while not worthless, it's not very good. It sits in a corner in the case. Once in a while I take it out and cuss at it a while, then put it back.
Terry Stryker
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
I bought that one from Ivan when it was still a prototype. I had him narrow my rim slightly and bought one in titanium during my single years when I could afford $400 for a mouthpiece. I used that with my Willson Eb for many many years until I purchased the Sellmansberger imperial.YorkNumber3 wrote:I aways though that the Giddings Alan Baer Original F mpc (not the MMVI) was comparable to the C4. Might be worth a look or an email to Alan even.
I’ll never sell the giddings mp though. Still has some really great qualities. I also have the John Sass model and he matched the rim on that one to match my Baer model instead of the super flat rim it normally has.
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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
Schlepporello wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:36 pm OK, I am of the persuasion that the Mirafone C4 mouthpiece of old is the same as the new Miraphone TU23 mouthpiece. Is a stainless steel equivalent available for these mouthpieces.
I use a Sellmansberger solo, zero shank, and Joe offers a C4 style rim. He offers multiple sizes of that rim. I use a different style rim.
His zero shank size with a solo cup would be the closest. He offers two shank sizes larger if you want that, a #1, and #2.
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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
I've already made my purchase from Bloke and am quite pleased with the results.Bloke wrote: I sent Wayne a list of Sellmansberger parts that comes the closest to a C-4 / TU-23.
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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
Can someone remind me where the Blokepiece parts list brochure is? I’m not finding it
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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
OK, I get these two mixed up - I am not wanting the equivalent of a C4, but rather a C3 - the deeper and smaller rim of the two!
Terry Stryker
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Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
About the closest I could put together would be an Orchestra Grand Cup, an Orchestra Grand back bore, and a 32 mm W-M profile rim. I couldn't guarantee that it would be remarkably close to a TU-21.
Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
From what I measured using my digits and a pencil as measuring tools,the solo with a profundo rim is real close, but it feels like I need a smaller bore (backbore??) shank. I think I have the solo #1 shank. I just know that Mirafone mouthpiece is VERY compatable to the 186 - go figure. I will try the OG setup though....hmmmm
Terry Stryker
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
I was never much of a mouthpiece hound, but I will be watching this with interest - assuming this will be similar to the old MiraFone F/Eb piece we discussed?bloke wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:22 am off topic?
The new thing that I'll be offering is silver plated brass and it's not modular, but it's even shallower than a C4 and the throat is even smaller. It's not going to be offered with a big wide rounded rim, but with a rim that I personally like.
So far, I've determined that it's really good on a cimbasso and on a really small tuba. If I find that it's useful for more things, I'll report that as well.
@Stryk
Maybe, this mouthpiece would work on your little Jinbao model 80 F tuba knockoff, but maybe that instrument's hopeless...??
I think I might be testing it on tubas like 5J, O-99, and similar and smaller instruments. It could prove to be something that trombone people who double on tuba would like.
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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece
at least that shallow