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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:55 am
by Stryk
bloke wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:30 pm
I sent Wayne a list of Sellmansberger parts that comes the closest to a C-4 / TU-23.

As always, if there is any interest, please purchase them from me.
Since i have a plethora of your components, I'm interested in this info, too. The C4 really seems to work on my 186 - but I hate the brass!

Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:22 am
by bloke
off topic?

The new thing that I'll be offering is silver plated brass and it's not modular, but it's even shallower than a C4 and the throat is even smaller. It's not going to be offered with a big wide rounded rim, but with a rim that I personally like.

So far, I've determined that it's really good on a cimbasso and on a really small tuba. If I find that it's useful for more things, I'll report that as well.

@Stryk
Maybe, this mouthpiece would work on your little Jinbao model 80 F tuba knockoff, but maybe that instrument's hopeless...??

I think I might be testing it on tubas like 5J, O-99, and similar and smaller instruments. It could prove to be something that trombone people who double on tuba would like.

Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:40 pm
by jtm
Which set of Sellmansberger parts comes close to a TU-23? I have a Symphony, and that seems to not be it.

Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:53 pm
by bloke
Probably a solo cup, a solo number zero standard shank, and a WM profile rim in one of the medium cup opening sizes.

With apologies for the way that it came out, because it was voice texted, but I need to set this phone down and go do something else rather than correcting it.

Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:57 pm
by Stryk
bloke wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:22 am
@Stryk
Maybe, this mouthpiece would work on your little Jinbao model 80 F tuba knockoff, but maybe that instrument's hopeless...??
William Morris played it and said that while not worthless, it's not very good. It sits in a corner in the case. Once in a while I take it out and cuss at it a while, then put it back.

Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:22 pm
by JRaymo
YorkNumber3 wrote:I aways though that the Giddings Alan Baer Original F mpc (not the MMVI) was comparable to the C4. Might be worth a look or an email to Alan even.
I bought that one from Ivan when it was still a prototype. I had him narrow my rim slightly and bought one in titanium during my single years when I could afford $400 for a mouthpiece. I used that with my Willson Eb for many many years until I purchased the Sellmansberger imperial.

I’ll never sell the giddings mp though. Still has some really great qualities. I also have the John Sass model and he matched the rim on that one to match my Baer model instead of the super flat rim it normally has.


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Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:39 pm
by Pauvog1
Schlepporello wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:36 pm OK, I am of the persuasion that the Mirafone C4 mouthpiece of old is the same as the new Miraphone TU23 mouthpiece. Is a stainless steel equivalent available for these mouthpieces.

I use a Sellmansberger solo, zero shank, and Joe offers a C4 style rim. He offers multiple sizes of that rim. I use a different style rim.

His zero shank size with a solo cup would be the closest. He offers two shank sizes larger if you want that, a #1, and #2.

Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:52 pm
by Schlepporello
Bloke wrote: I sent Wayne a list of Sellmansberger parts that comes the closest to a C-4 / TU-23.

As always, if there is any interest, please purchase them from me.
I've already made my purchase from Bloke and am quite pleased with the results.

Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:37 pm
by jtm
Can someone remind me where the Blokepiece parts list brochure is? I’m not finding it ☹️

Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:51 am
by Stryk
OK, I get these two mixed up - I am not wanting the equivalent of a C4, but rather a C3 - the deeper and smaller rim of the two!

Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:38 pm
by bloke
About the closest I could put together would be an Orchestra Grand Cup, an Orchestra Grand back bore, and a 32 mm W-M profile rim. I couldn't guarantee that it would be remarkably close to a TU-21.

Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 1:02 pm
by Stryk
bloke wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:38 pm About the closest I could put together would be an Orchestra Grand Cup, an Orchestra Grand back bore, and a 32 mm W-M profile rim. I couldn't guarantee that it would be remarkably close to a TU-21.
From what I measured using my digits and a pencil as measuring tools,the solo with a profundo rim is real close, but it feels like I need a smaller bore (backbore??) shank. I think I have the solo #1 shank. I just know that Mirafone mouthpiece is VERY compatable to the 186 - go figure. I will try the OG setup though....hmmmm

Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:46 pm
by Yorkboy
bloke wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:22 am off topic?

The new thing that I'll be offering is silver plated brass and it's not modular, but it's even shallower than a C4 and the throat is even smaller. It's not going to be offered with a big wide rounded rim, but with a rim that I personally like.

So far, I've determined that it's really good on a cimbasso and on a really small tuba. If I find that it's useful for more things, I'll report that as well.

@Stryk
Maybe, this mouthpiece would work on your little Jinbao model 80 F tuba knockoff, but maybe that instrument's hopeless...??

I think I might be testing it on tubas like 5J, O-99, and similar and smaller instruments. It could prove to be something that trombone people who double on tuba would like.
I was never much of a mouthpiece hound, but I will be watching this with interest - assuming this will be similar to the old MiraFone F/Eb piece we discussed?

Re: Mirafone C4 Mouthpiece

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:38 pm
by bloke
at least that shallow