Re: PT1/B&S 3103/VMI 103/Accent 952
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:06 am
It has ruff spots but the lacquer is probably 80+%.
From 10ft....
From 10ft....
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Hello Bob! Hope you are well. Yep, that Jb 6v f was a dog. Joe had some use for it and I took what he offered. Lesson somewhat learned. That little mw182, I really thought with a tuning slide stick, I could’ve used it just fine. Liked the sound and you could really get around on it. We all value different characteristics of a horn to different degrees. Yes, I play for money with good players and bad intonation isn’t an option. But there’s more than one way to do that. My teacher, James Jenkins, grew up on a marzan piston b flat. As you know, it has up facing main tuning slide. He has ever since had a main tuning slide stick on his other horns.there are many great players who never touch a slide. It’s great to have so many options.Bob Kolada wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:19 amI'm still waiting for Mike Mason to eat at least a crow wing; didn't he unload his JB 6 valve F on you? I think I owned that exact horn and he 'disagreed ' with my appraisal...bloke wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:15 am I seriously doubt that the early Accent instruments (specifically: the ones that were German made, as someone made in Taiwan and other places) were partially made in mainland China. They are just too absolutely parts-interchangeable and too absolutely “just the same“ as the same models labeled “B&S”.
Gerhard Meinl was trying to find all kinds of work for that factory when - after reunification- he was assigned it by the German government. He made deals with Brooks Mays to build their earlier “F. Schmidt” instruments, deals with Accent, et al.
fwiw, I recently picked up an “F. Schmidt” (Brooks Mays sold) instrument for myself, and there’s just nothing Chinese – certainly nothing “two decades ago Chinese“ – about it.
Buffet - I’m thinking - is really the B&S owner that has contracted more Chinese factories to build some of their economy-line instruments, such as “Besson International”, walking away from the Schreiber factory (towards China) for the entry-level clarinets, and etc. My understanding is that they are using Wisemann, among others.
If I’m wrong, someone - perhaps Mr. Meinl himself - can correct me.
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Believe I believe quite a few of us have noticed that the Wisemann 900 has just about disappeared, since their believed-to-be connection with Buffet. Though the build quality wasn’t quite up to the build quality of a PT6P, I found it interesting that most of them played better (for me) than most of the German-made “real“ ones. Though the model 900 mouthpipes were thin, yellow brass, and tended to rot, I suspect that the playing characteristics (that I like better) Might be due to the fact that the 900 mouthpipe tubes were a little bit smaller on the small end – a characteristic which seems to help quite a few models of tubas.