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Re: Opinions on the YEB-321?

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:57 pm
by bloke
SEEMINGLY OFF-TOPIC, BUT THE YEB-321 BUGLE COMPLETELY COPIES THE BUGLE (THROUGH THE BOTTOM BOW) OF THE ENGLISH-STYLE E-FLATS.

This is my personal 3+1 comp. E-flat (1958 production).
I suspect these are fairly rare...particularly with not-worn-out valves. (These valves are perfect.)

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With the 22" recording bell, it sounds like a "phat" BB-flat tuba, yet is far more facile that most B-flat tubas...(and I need it to be: In jazz bands, I play a bare minimum of two "notes" in every single measure of every single song).

...and I also have these bells for it - a 19" and a 17"...so - pretty much - it's a whatever-anyone-could-possibly-want-it-to-be fully-chromatic comp. E-flat...
(I tend to use the 19" upright bell when a jazz combo is playing at some large outdoor venue - where all the instruments are mic'ed - and I tend to use the 22" recording bell at more intimate indoor jazz venues: clubs/lounges/parties/"rooms", etc., particularly when the ceiling of a room is lower.)
I strongly suspect that - WERE I afforded an opportunity to begin to learn what it's like to play in a British-style brass band - I'd show up with THIS instrument, and with the 17" bell...as it's the closest thing I have to a 15" bell (which - though mostly ignorant of brass band traditions - I consider THE "classic" size of BBB E-flat tuba bell [ie. 15"]...as it helps the E-flat tubas to offer their own "voice" - distinguishable from the BB-flat tubas' "voice").

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...and I made the #3 comp slide EXTRA long, so that low F and E are "on the money" and are not sharp...and is low F-sharp a bit flat due to this? just a bit...but low F and E are played - in music - seemingly far more often than is F-sharp.

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ALL of my instruments tend to be altered in one or more ways...ways which help me fool people into believing that I'm a good player. :smilie8:

Re: Opinions on the YEB-321?

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:34 pm
by greenbean
To the original question about Yamaha 321 Eb's...

I have been playing on one for about 3 weeks. Seems like a great horn to me. My goal is to learn Eb fingerings so the lack of a 5th valve doesn't worry me at the moment. I figure I can add a 5th valve if I decide to keep it long term.

This thing is built like a tank. I guess Yamaha calls it an intermediate horn because of the lack of compensation/5th-valve. Surely not because of skimping in the build department. Nicely put together, valves and slide all work perfectly. Very easy to play and to make sound good! I already sound better on Eb than on BBb - which I have been playing for several years. :bugeyes:

Re: Opinions on the YEB-321?

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:18 am
by matt g
Yamaha has a track record of building beginner or intermediate models that surpass the professional models in many ways.

Re: Opinions on the YEB-321?

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:54 pm
by bloke

Re: Opinions on the YEB-321?

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:57 pm
by LargeTuba
bloke wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:54 pm ...and boom goes the dynamite

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... 4657132867
Good price and good looking.

Re: Opinions on the YEB-321?

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:54 pm
by bloke
It’s one of those wonderful and remarkably fair-priced instruments that I really wish I needed…
yet: I just don’t need it.
Yamaha HAS all the parts needed to make these (between YEB-321 parts and YEB-632 parts)… Yet, they don’t.

Re: Opinions on the YEB-321?

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:07 pm
by greenbean
LargeTuba wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:57 pm
bloke wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:54 pm ...and boom goes the dynamite

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... 4657132867
Good price and good looking.
Wow, what a beauty!

Re: Opinions on the YEB-321?

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:07 pm
by LargeTuba
@bloke

Look what just came into my possession


Re: Opinions on the YEB-321?

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:13 pm
by bloke
crossing my fingers - for you - that it's not high pitch. :smilie8:

Re: Opinions on the YEB-321?

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:32 pm
by LargeTuba
bloke wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:13 pm crossing my fingers - for you - that it's not high pitch. :smilie8:
With the tuning slide out a little, plays right in tune! :smilie8: