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Didn’t anyone play any any of Lee Stofer’s Lidl horns? Interested in impressions of those.

DonO. wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:33 pm Didn’t anyone play any any of Lee Stofer’s Lidl horns? Interested in impressions of those.

I wanted to, but all of them that I saw appeared to be exact duplicates of former Cerveny instruments, and I didn't expect them to be any different. I was hoping to try their 3/4-size Bb but they are apparently still inbound. And Lee's booth was crowded. The only instrument I got a chance to play in his booth was the Miraphone 1291.

Rick "didn't get a chance to play the 5/4 Rudi, either" Denney

Eutubabone54 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:32 pm I loved the Prokofiev. Couldn't afford it though. Want to do an even trade for a Cerveny Piggy? probably not, I guess.

Ooh, more positive comments about the 6/4 Prokofiev BBb. Definitely got to try it seeing as it's the same bugle as the topper.

DonO. wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:33 pm Didn’t anyone play any any of Lee Stofer’s Lidl horns? Interested in impressions of those.

I did last year. I liked the Moldau de Luxe BBb the best
The CC was good too. But the Moldau BBb
Can't remember too many details though. The classic 3/4 Lidl Bb was fine but the Miraphone 494 blows me away a lot more. Plus I mentioned the red/gold brass 3/4 BBb one earlier in this thread too.

DonO. wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:33 pm Didn’t anyone play any any of Lee Stofer’s Lidl horns? Interested in impressions of those.

I was very impressed with the Moldau CC. the cheaper one with the smaller bell especially

PlayTheTuba wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:11 pm Ooh, more
positive comments about the 6/4 Prokofiev BBb. Definitely got to try it seeing as it's the same bugle as the topper.

OK: what's "the topper"?

UncleBeer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:53 pm

PlayTheTuba wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:11 pm Ooh, more
positive comments about the 6/4 Prokofiev BBb. Definitely got to try it seeing as it's the same bugle as the topper.

OK: what's "the topper"?

Oh sorry, I thought that may have sounded little odd. I was referring to the Wessex BBb 6/4 Leviathan. I could be wrong but I think the Leviathan and the Prokofiev share the same bugle.

Wessex BBb 6/4 Compensated Tuba ‘Leviathan’ - TB681HP & TB691P. A top action 3+1 compensating 6/4 BBb. I think it looks great in the photos too.
https://us.wessex-tubas.com/products/bb ... 81h-tb691h

LeMark wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:28 pm

DonO. wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:33 pm Didn’t anyone play any any of Lee Stofer’s Lidl horns? Interested in impressions of those.

I was very impressed with the Moldau CC. the cheaper one with the smaller bell especially

I bet they don't hold a candle to the Moldau BBb models.

They didn't have any there because he had sold all of his so I guess I'll just have to wait for another time to test that hypothesis

Rick Denney wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:34 am The Yamaha Bb prototype had some interesting and innovative features, but the sound sort-of brought the 822 F tuba to mind.

Well according to an user on the other forum, that's because it is! To an extent. The blog link mentions it. Google seemed to do a decent job translating it too.

Yoshi wrote: ↑Sat May 13, 2023 8:57 am If you google YCB623 in Japanese, there is a photo taken at an exhibit from 2007, that seems to be a prototype - which looks actually quite different (it's not my blog and photo, so I will copy a link below):　http://blog.livedoor.jp/marutuba3099/ar ... 63675.html

It says the prototype-then was based on YFB822, so many things must have changed since then. YCB623 is not yet sold here in Japan, so we cannot try it for a while (apparently, same thing happened for YCB822 in the 1990s).

DonO. wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:33 pm Didn’t anyone play any any of Lee Stofer’s Lidl horns? Interested in impressions of those.

I spent some time on the horns. I found the smaller F tuba to be very nice. Good tone and high range. The larger F I didn’t like so much. Both sported a pretty good low C.

The CCs were fun, but not something I’d buy.

BRING BACK THE 2157 !!!

Everyone who claims "I love the model 188, except for..." won't have an "except for" about which to complain, anymore.

bloke "not a particular fan of Buffet Crampon, but a fan of THAT (pre-Buffet) model - WERE IT THAT I limited myself to instruments built in C"

BRS wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:10 pm Yeah, those days are gone.

The problem with re-introducing the 2157 would be...

- "It can't possibly be as good as anything newly-designed, as we now have all of this acoustical technology.
- It's only a model NUMBER, and doesn't have some NAME such as "LIGHTNINGBOLT" (etc.)
- There's no celebrity tewbiste associated with it...ie. "Fatty Tightsuit 'designed' this model."

bloke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:34 pm - It's only a model NUMBER, and doesn't have some NAME such as "LIGHTNINGBOLT" (etc.)
- There's no celebrity tewbiste associated with it...ie. "Fatty Tightsuit 'designed' this model."

That can easily be fixed: The 2157 'Bloke'
even though you don't play one

LeMark wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:09 pm The new 3+1 front action wessex Eb was actually a lot of fun. Good sound, seemed to be good intonation, fun to play if you like 3+1

Willson has a new, smaller Eb that is a really good horn, but that leadpipe was so low for me

A new little Eb with a low lead pipe? I'd love more on that!

BramJ wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:23 am

bloke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:34 pm - It's only a model NUMBER, and doesn't have some NAME such as "LIGHTNINGBOLT" (etc.)
- There's no celebrity tewbiste associated with it...ie. "Fatty Tightsuit 'designed' this model."

That can easily be fixed: The 2157 'Bloke'
even though you don't play one

"If it's good enough for a bloke, it's good enough for anyone."
"A tuba for bloke's."
2157 a " 'feshanals" choice.
"BlokeSpecial" - 50% 75% off for those who WILL and contractuctallty MUST finish with a performance degree
Comes with FREE session WITH THE BLOKE himself to fine tune a blokepiece to your liking! FREE sammich is also included. FREE custom ToneControlz©® pat. included. FREE huge letters of your initials (some assembly is required).


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bloke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:34 pm Yeah, those days are gone...

The problem with re-introducing the 2157 would be...

- "It can't possibly be as good as anything newly-designed, as we now have all of this acoustical technology.

Not with that attitude.

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I think Buffett-Crampon just needs to give Bloke a 2157 so they can begin to market the snot out of them

Don't mind my own self humor

I really do think the brass initials - and made to look as factory as possible - are a good idea, because of all the theft (of just about anything you can think of), these days. I suspect that most thieves are so stupid that they wouldn't know that those were added on later, and it makes instruments really an easy to identify.

The overwhelming percentage of gigs for American musicians are in its cities. American cities are in de facto criminal-run chaos - particularly, now - with Soros money having funded so many of their pro-crime district attorneys' campaigns, and their voting populaces being so ignorant - due to the (for 45 years, now) nationalization of (de-)education. Those who don't see the chaos are frogs who jumped into the pot when the water was already pretty hot. One has to have grown up during the pre-chaos days to be able to see it. For everyone else, it's just an H. G. Wells' The Time Machine-like "the way things have always been".

I like Wade's air tag idea. As far as finding a place to hide it, I really think that maybe contact cement and sticking it just barely out of sight on the inside of the bottom bow is probably the easiest solution, and would have about as much effect on the sound as "failing to think about the spelling of 'hippopotamus' " while playing anything-in-particular.

Well, I have been known to scratch my initials in things when I was younger; for example I still have a fancy-dan HP calculator I got in engineering school (It does hyperbolic functions for transmission line calculations!) for what was a lot of money to me back then, and I scratched my initials in it. It is still on Battery #2 and the initials are still there. Those would lower the price for a collector, but it never went anywhere back when it was in use a lot.

So -- (sacrilege!!) -- one could, with a very small engraving tool, put one's initials on an obscure but visible place on one's tuba, and those would be quite difficult to remove without its being noticed that they were removed. The tuba would be totally identifiable.

Scratching in initials is a good idea, but my over-the-top brass initials can be seen in pictures in eBay auctions, Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, and those sorts of stolen property fencing websites.

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