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Re: Kurath F — Reimagined 6th Slide

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:31 pm
by Sousaswag
That thumb ring. What a beast!!!

This is probably going to be the best version of this model F tuba, like, ever. Can’t wait to see the final result!

Re: Kurath F — Reimagined 6th Slide

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:08 pm
by the elephant
Well! This turned out better than I had hoped!

Fingering Chart (needed pitch corrections)

High Octave
High F is still hard to nail on this tuba, but now it is not sharp AF…

Middle Octave
Gb/F# top of staff = 5th (12 can still be used, but I have to push in on 1st, and 5th is bang on with the tuner for me with this mouthpiece.)

Low Octave
G bottom line = 13
C two ledger lines = 4
B = 46
Bb = 45
A = 456
Ab = 134 (out of the descending pattern)
G = 1234 (slide retuning allows this to work)
Gb/F# = 3456
F = 13456 (the "Sellmansberger Secret F" — all six will not get a Secret E, though…)

Pedal Octave
C = 13
Bb = 14

If I use these fingerings, I do not have to move a single slide, ever. The low range is fuller and less piggish. I think the leak I found was making the 5th range quack a bit. It is much easier to hit notes solidly down there now.

This tuba is now every bit as good as the Adams. It is just a lot bigger. I am not sure which one I will keep. In quintet I only play F, and we frequently have a set drummer. I have to be able to knock out low, walking basslines while still being able to play all the Rennaissance stuff (frequently high and delicate) where I have to pretend to be playing an instrument I don't have.

Because bigness on a small instrument is more difficult for me than smallness on a large instrument I think the Kurath will eventually win out. But I want to take another year to decide — because the Adams is *really* good…

I have some upcoming performances for which I had planned to use the Adams, but now I'm not so sure.

Regardless, this is going to be a fun problem to work through. I'm a fortunate guy, on occasion…

Ah, sweet mayhem…
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Awaiting a thorough cleanup job to all the solder work…
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Re: Kurath F — Reimagined 6th Slide

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:09 pm
by the elephant

Re: Kurath F — Reimagined 6th Slide

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:38 pm
by bloke
Congrats on everything wiggling.

I'm a little bit surprised that 5634 doesn't give you a good low G, but all tubas are different.

You must have something built longer than what I have, because - for me to play low F on the second partial - I have to mash all six and trigger #5 out several inches, so that probably explains why 5634 isn't a G.