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Sierman tubas

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:48 am
by arpthark
Directing some discourse away from a for sale ad so as to not muck it up, the offerings from Sierman look interesting.
tubatodd wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:19 am
http://www.siermanmusic.com/about.html

Text from the site:
Seventeen years ago, worked in Dalian brasswind manufactory and learned how to make rotary valve brass-instruments and master taught how to enjoy this job into producing and sound in the life.

after 10 years Craftsmanship and Experience, built my own factory –SIERMAN in LangFang, why to call ‘’Sierman’’- in the Chinese semantic means-it’s a Fantastic Extension…. we worked closer with musician and listen what they need, and more concentrated in sound’s difference and craftsmanship..

It’s not easy to insist quality as we are really young, But, When we see customers satisfied smile, we insist on quality is worth. we will keep our passion to research and development new instrument in the world and working closer with musician and listen to customer!!
Interesting! They make a Hirsbrunner HB 2P clone with the signature looped leadpipe. Haven't seen that before

http://www.siermanmusic.com/info_15_43.html

They also have an obligatory York copy (?) and a MW 3450 copy (?) among others

A PT6 copy???????


Roland playing a Sierman
MiBrassFS wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:59 am Interesting. Dalian was the original Chinese maker for Custom and WWBW. Well done, @tubatodd!
The current line-up is pretty interesting. See here: http://www.siermanmusic.com/info_15.html

For CCs, the "Skylark" seems to be an HP-2P clone. The "Sonata" is a Yorkalike. The "Infinity" is the 3450 copy.

F tuba line seems to have the "Mars" (MR-P F copy), the "Hippo" (what a fantastic name for a MW 2250 copy), the "Arthur" (JBL Classics copy), the Palatine (PT-16? large 6v F tuba), and the "Primo" (seems to be a PT-10 copy).

There is also a BBb tuba "Tanker" which seems to be a Rudi Meinl Bayreuth copy. I'm not seeing the PT-6 copy listed anywhere on their product line.

Edit to add, if they can get their rotary valves and linkage nice and silent and similar in quality to B&S AND if the PT-6 (rotor) clone ends up being as nice as the old "Wisemann" PT-6P (piston) clone, that could get some traction. I've been idly looking for a nice PT-6 for sale the past couple years and they really don't appear that often.

Re: Sierman tubas

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:59 am
by Kontrabasstuba
arpthark wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:48 am Directing some discourse away from a for sale ad so as to not muck it up, the offerings from Sierman look interesting.
tubatodd wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:19 am
http://www.siermanmusic.com/about.html

Text from the site:
Seventeen years ago, worked in Dalian brasswind manufactory and learned how to make rotary valve brass-instruments and master taught how to enjoy this job into producing and sound in the life.

after 10 years Craftsmanship and Experience, built my own factory –SIERMAN in LangFang, why to call ‘’Sierman’’- in the Chinese semantic means-it’s a Fantastic Extension…. we worked closer with musician and listen what they need, and more concentrated in sound’s difference and craftsmanship..

It’s not easy to insist quality as we are really young, But, When we see customers satisfied smile, we insist on quality is worth. we will keep our passion to research and development new instrument in the world and working closer with musician and listen to customer!!
Interesting! They make a Hirsbrunner HB 2P clone with the signature looped leadpipe. Haven't seen that before

http://www.siermanmusic.com/info_15_43.html

They also have an obligatory York copy (?) and a MW 3450 copy (?) among others

A PT6 copy???????


Roland playing a Sierman
MiBrassFS wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:59 am Interesting. Dalian was the original Chinese maker for Custom and WWBW. Well done, @tubatodd!
The current line-up is pretty interesting. See here: http://www.siermanmusic.com/info_15.html

For CCs, the "Skylark" seems to be an HP-2P clone. The "Sonata" is a Yorkalike. The "Infinity" is the 3450 copy.

F tuba line seems to have the "Mars" (MR-P F copy), the "Hippo" (what a fantastic name for a MW 2250 copy), the "Arthur" (JBL Classics copy), the Palatine (PT-16? large 6v F tuba), and the "Primo" (seems to be a PT-10 copy).

There is also a BBb tuba "Tanker" which seems to be a Rudi Meinl Bayreuth copy. I'm not seeing the PT-6 copy listed anywhere on their product line.

Edit to add, if they can get their rotary valves and linkage nice and silent and similar in quality to B&S AND if the PT-6 (rotor) clone ends up being as nice as the old "Wisemann" PT-6P (piston) clone, that could get some traction. I've been idly looking for a nice PT-6 for sale the past couple years and they really don't appear that often.

Hi, unfortunately I can not open the Webside. Could you see the "Tanker" Is there a picture?

Re: Sierman tubas

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 7:11 am
by MiBrassFS
Good for the Sierman people for not wanting to waste the experience they gathered at Dali(y)an.

I had never heard of them before a couple days ago.