Blokespecial 186 in Action - Final Product Added
- Doc
- Posts: 2476
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:48 am
- Location: Downtown Browntown
- Has thanked: 850 times
- Been thanked: 768 times
- Contact:
Blokespecial 186 in Action - Final Product Added
This is a sing-along track for choir members to record their individual parts. Hopefully, the final cut with choir added, plus another organ/brass piece we did, will be made available online.
The 186 was huge in this space. No need to step on the gas. The other piece begged for a bigger tuba, otherwise I would have played F tuba on both. As always, I am highly critical of my playing here, but the point of posting is to hopefully demonstrate that this is a superb instrument with a great sound.
Lord, Speak to Me
The 186 was huge in this space. No need to step on the gas. The other piece begged for a bigger tuba, otherwise I would have played F tuba on both. As always, I am highly critical of my playing here, but the point of posting is to hopefully demonstrate that this is a superb instrument with a great sound.
Lord, Speak to Me
Last edited by Doc on Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
Welcome to Browntown!
Home of the Brown Note!
Home of the Brown Note!
- matt g
- Posts: 2593
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:37 am
- Location: Southeastern New England
- Has thanked: 267 times
- Been thanked: 558 times
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
Nice playing!
I had plenty of concerts in my youth playing a 186 BBb and in college playing a 188 where those horns sounded absolutely huge on tape. There seems to be a very solid (and inherently in tune) core to these horns that makes them microphone-friendly.
Keep on enjoying that horn!
I had plenty of concerts in my youth playing a 186 BBb and in college playing a 188 where those horns sounded absolutely huge on tape. There seems to be a very solid (and inherently in tune) core to these horns that makes them microphone-friendly.
Keep on enjoying that horn!
Dillon/Walters CC (sold)
Meinl-Weston 2165 (sold)
Meinl-Weston 2165 (sold)
- Three Valves
- Posts: 4731
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:07 pm
- Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
- Has thanked: 849 times
- Been thanked: 526 times
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
Looking mighty bone fide there... 

Thought Criminal
Mack Brass Artiste
TU422L with TU25
1964 Conn 36k with CB Arnold Jacobs
Accent (By B&S) 952R with Bach12
The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column
Mack Brass Artiste
TU422L with TU25
1964 Conn 36k with CB Arnold Jacobs
Accent (By B&S) 952R with Bach12
The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column
- Doc
- Posts: 2476
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:48 am
- Location: Downtown Browntown
- Has thanked: 850 times
- Been thanked: 768 times
- Contact:
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
Don't get used to it.
But in self-defense, suit or no suit, I still bathe once a week.
Welcome to Browntown!
Home of the Brown Note!
Home of the Brown Note!
- Doc
- Posts: 2476
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:48 am
- Location: Downtown Browntown
- Has thanked: 850 times
- Been thanked: 768 times
- Contact:
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
They seem to record very well. I have some recordings with my 188 (when I was a snot-nosed college freshman) - I'm not sure about the player, but the horn sounds great.matt g wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:54 am Nice playing!
I had plenty of concerts in my youth playing a 186 BBb and in college playing a 188 where those horns sounded absolutely huge on tape. There seems to be a very solid (and inherently in tune) core to these horns that makes them microphone-friendly.
Keep on enjoying that horn!
Welcome to Browntown!
Home of the Brown Note!
Home of the Brown Note!
- bloke
- Mid South Music
- Posts: 20279
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
- Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
- Has thanked: 4138 times
- Been thanked: 4377 times
-
- Posts: 1045
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:41 am
- Has thanked: 41 times
- Been thanked: 80 times
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
Oh no Bill you stepped into this new Denney style signature..
Bill "I still bathe once a week (with soap)" Holt
Horn sounds good in context, which mouthpiece was that?

Bill "I still bathe once a week (with soap)" Holt

Horn sounds good in context, which mouthpiece was that?
Last edited by KingTuba1241X on Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.
06' Miraphone 187-4U
- Doc
- Posts: 2476
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:48 am
- Location: Downtown Browntown
- Has thanked: 850 times
- Been thanked: 768 times
- Contact:
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
Sellmansberger Imperial with gold-kote #2 Profundo rim.KingTuba1241X wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:41 am Oh no Bill you stepped into this new Denney style signature..![]()
Bill "I still bathe once a week" Holt
Horn sounds good in context, which mouthpiece was that?
Hey, I even use soap!
Welcome to Browntown!
Home of the Brown Note!
Home of the Brown Note!
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
Sounds great!!








Terry Stryker
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
- Doc
- Posts: 2476
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:48 am
- Location: Downtown Browntown
- Has thanked: 850 times
- Been thanked: 768 times
- Contact:
-
- Posts: 489
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:37 pm
- Has thanked: 447 times
- Been thanked: 151 times
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
Very well played, Bill! Your horn sounds terrific!



1916 Holton "Mammoth" 3 valve BBb Upright Bell Tuba
1935 King "Symphony" Bass 3 valve BBb Tuba
1998 King "2341" 4 valve BBb Tuba
1970 Yamaha "321" 4 valve BBb Tuba (Yard Goat)
1935 King "Symphony" Bass 3 valve BBb Tuba
1998 King "2341" 4 valve BBb Tuba
1970 Yamaha "321" 4 valve BBb Tuba (Yard Goat)
- Doc
- Posts: 2476
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:48 am
- Location: Downtown Browntown
- Has thanked: 850 times
- Been thanked: 768 times
- Contact:
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
Thanks! I've only been able to play it out of the house 3-4 times since I got it, and each time I'm increasingly impressed by it. Very thankful to have it, and thankful to have had the ability to work my tail off to get it. The only thing lacking is my ability to play it as well as I would prefer. But (a la @bloke ), it IS one of those tubas that makes me sound better than I have earned.
Welcome to Browntown!
Home of the Brown Note!
Home of the Brown Note!
-
- Posts: 489
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:37 pm
- Has thanked: 447 times
- Been thanked: 151 times
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
I will respectfully disagree with you. After learning of your musical history and how hard you have worked to improve, you have more than earned that tuba. Good for you and keep it up. 

1916 Holton "Mammoth" 3 valve BBb Upright Bell Tuba
1935 King "Symphony" Bass 3 valve BBb Tuba
1998 King "2341" 4 valve BBb Tuba
1970 Yamaha "321" 4 valve BBb Tuba (Yard Goat)
1935 King "Symphony" Bass 3 valve BBb Tuba
1998 King "2341" 4 valve BBb Tuba
1970 Yamaha "321" 4 valve BBb Tuba (Yard Goat)
- Doc
- Posts: 2476
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:48 am
- Location: Downtown Browntown
- Has thanked: 850 times
- Been thanked: 768 times
- Contact:
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
You're too kind. It ain't what it used to be, but in some ways, that's a very good thing.prairieboy1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:05 pm I will respectfully disagree with you. After learning of your musical history and how hard you have worked to improve, you have more than earned that tuba. Good for you and keep it up.![]()


Welcome to Browntown!
Home of the Brown Note!
Home of the Brown Note!
- bloke
- Mid South Music
- Posts: 20279
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
- Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
- Has thanked: 4138 times
- Been thanked: 4377 times
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
Bill's a very fine player, and I take no credit for how well the tuba plays, nor how well he plays it.
I chose to fix that particular (formerly distressed) tuba back up and modernize it BECAUSE it plays well. (I did NOT take something that featured mediocre playing characteristics and add any sort of "magic" to it.)
That having been said, a smart player will do just as do Bill and I: They will seek out instruments that are so easy to play, that the effortlessness of using those instruments even approaches overcoming one's own limitations.
That having been said (as I attempt to do), one might also attempt to be smart enough to not hang on to every single instrument encountered that achieves that set of criteria (as - though somewhat rare - such instruments can be found, and too many can easily end up being owned), particularly when their uses begin to overlap too much.
Collectors gather things - of various genre - of historical, oddball, or particularly-fine-example-of interest.
Blue collar musicians (such as myself) view instruments as equipment. It's good to have plenty of equipment, but it can become burdensome to own too much - particularly when "maintaining complete familiarity with the operating procedures of each piece of equipment" begins to take time away from "accomplishing the tasks at hand". I view Bill as being the same type of instrument owner as am I.
I chose to fix that particular (formerly distressed) tuba back up and modernize it BECAUSE it plays well. (I did NOT take something that featured mediocre playing characteristics and add any sort of "magic" to it.)
That having been said, a smart player will do just as do Bill and I: They will seek out instruments that are so easy to play, that the effortlessness of using those instruments even approaches overcoming one's own limitations.
That having been said (as I attempt to do), one might also attempt to be smart enough to not hang on to every single instrument encountered that achieves that set of criteria (as - though somewhat rare - such instruments can be found, and too many can easily end up being owned), particularly when their uses begin to overlap too much.
Collectors gather things - of various genre - of historical, oddball, or particularly-fine-example-of interest.
Blue collar musicians (such as myself) view instruments as equipment. It's good to have plenty of equipment, but it can become burdensome to own too much - particularly when "maintaining complete familiarity with the operating procedures of each piece of equipment" begins to take time away from "accomplishing the tasks at hand". I view Bill as being the same type of instrument owner as am I.
- bort2.0
- Posts: 5287
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:13 am
- Location: Minneapolis
- Has thanked: 340 times
- Been thanked: 1018 times
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
I really don't like collecting things -- it's just too much for my brain to accumulate things to "just have them" or to rarely use them. The thought of collecting something as large as tubas -- even if money were no object -- seems undesirable to me.bloke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:14 am That having been said (as I attempt to do), one might also attempt to be smart enough to not hang on to every single instrument encountered that achieves that set of criteria (as - though somewhat rare - such instruments can be found, and too many can easily end up being owned), particularly when their uses begin to overlap too much.
Collectors gather things - of various genre - of historical, oddball, or particularly-fine-example-of interest.
Blue collar musicians (such as myself) view instruments as equipment. It's good to have plenty of equipment, but it can become burdensome to own too much - particularly when "maintaining complete familiarity with the operating procedures of each piece of equipment" begins to take time away from "accomplishing the tasks at hand". I view Bill as being the same type of instrument owner as am I.
- bloke
- Mid South Music
- Posts: 20279
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
- Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
- Has thanked: 4138 times
- Been thanked: 4377 times
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
Even with mouthpieces...bort2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:50 pmI really don't like collecting things -- it's just too much for my brain to accumulate things to "just have them" or to rarely use them. The thought of collecting something as large as tubas -- even if money were no object -- seems undesirable to me.bloke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:14 am That having been said (as I attempt to do), one might also attempt to be smart enough to not hang on to every single instrument encountered that achieves that set of criteria (as - though somewhat rare - such instruments can be found, and too many can easily end up being owned), particularly when their uses begin to overlap too much.
Collectors gather things - of various genre - of historical, oddball, or particularly-fine-example-of interest.
Blue collar musicians (such as myself) view instruments as equipment. It's good to have plenty of equipment, but it can become burdensome to own too much - particularly when "maintaining complete familiarity with the operating procedures of each piece of equipment" begins to take time away from "accomplishing the tasks at hand". I view Bill as being the same type of instrument owner as am I.
The only ones that I keep (not of my own design/manufacture) are a handful of SUPER-standard old-school ones (pro'lly both sizes of Conn Helleberg plus someone's Helleberg II knock-off, and possibly (??) an old MiraFone or two).
potential customer: "Hey bloke", how does a Sellmansberger Stupo-doopo mouthpiece compare to a PT-109...??"
bloke: "...uhh...??"
(clarification: I’m really not familiar with the specs/nomenclature/playing characteristics of very many other makers‘ mouthpieces.)
Last edited by bloke on Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:28 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Blokespecial 186 in Action
Sounds awesome! Thank you for sharing!Doc wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:31 am This is a sing-along track for choir members to record their individual parts. Hopefully, the final cut with choir added, plus another organ/brass piece we did, will be made available online.
The 186 was huge in this space. No need to step on the gas. The other piece begged for a bigger tuba, otherwise I would have played F tuba on both. As always, I am highly critical of my playing here, but the point of posting is to hopefully demonstrate that this is a superb instrument with a great sound.
Lord, Speak to Me
MW 2155
PT-18p (MRP)
JP 274 MKII
For sale:
Giddings Baer CC Euro shank https://tubaforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=96137#p96137
PT-18p (MRP)
JP 274 MKII
For sale:
Giddings Baer CC Euro shank https://tubaforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=96137#p96137
- Doc
- Posts: 2476
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:48 am
- Location: Downtown Browntown
- Has thanked: 850 times
- Been thanked: 768 times
- Contact: