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Hi-
I have been doing research on NY Phil early tubings after acquiring my Kaempf tuba (Mr Ritter) and thought I’d pass this on to interested folks.

http://trombone.myartsonline.com/sections.htm

Above: From Trombone Society...Big 5 & SF orchestra with low brass section history ( some incomplete, some incorrect)...and here is their tuba list for NY Phil..

NY Philharmonic Tuba:
Alan Baer (03-)
Kyle Turner (01-04)
Warren Deck (79-03)
Novotny (61-79)
William Bell (43-61)
Vanni (28-43)
Geib (10-28)
Killian (08-10)
August Helleberg (02-08)
Geib/Helleberg (01-02)
August Helleberg (1897-1901)
(1896-97) See Footnote #1
Santagato/Reiter (1895-96)
Thomae (1891-95)
August Helleberg (1888-91)
Listmann (1871-88)
Wernig (1870-71)
Listmann (1867-70)
Billhardt (1866-67)
Listmann/Billhardt (1862-66)
Listmann (1861-62)
Billhardt (1854-61)
Beisheim/Preusser (1853-54)
(1852-53) See Footnote #1
Beisheim (1851-52)
(1850-51) See Footnote #1
Friesing (1849-50)

Above: Footnote #1.   No personnel record available for this year.

And this from Bill Levay NY Phil digital archives:
 
“We do have a compilation of orchestra rosters going back to 1842, including of the orchestras that eventually merged with the Philharmonic, but not all of the information can be completely verified. The listing for each musicians’ years of service represents only the earliest and latest year a musician served in an orchestra. Gaps in service are not shown. For these reasons we do not publish this information on the Digital Archives site.
 
With that said, I am happy to provide you with what we have. I am curious about the information you found and how it compares to the info below. Would you mind sharing with me?
 
Asterisks (*) identify musicians who served all or part of their tenure as principals or first-chair players, including co-principal , alternate principal, and acting principal. Instrument abbreviations in brackets indicates that the musician was also listed in rosters under other instruments – [cb] for bass, [tb] for trombone. I should also noted that “AM” next to a musician’s name means “actual member”; the other names listed through 1909 were either substitute or extra players hired by the concert or for the season. The numbers in brackets refer to the orchestra – [1] for the NY Philharmonic Orchestra, [2] for the New York Symphony Orchestra. If a musician has a number it means he was also in that corresponding orchestra. So, Luca Del Negro played with the NYP in 1907-08 and also played with the NY Symphony.”
 
1 New York Philharmonic Orchestra, 1842-1928




2 New York Symphony Orchestra, 1877-1928



3 New/National Symphony Orchestra, 1919-21



4 New York Philharmonic-Symphony Orchestra, 1928-2003



Enjoy..
Mark

Thank you for posting this.

In case you do not have this set of lists and for people that are interested, below is a link to a site that lists musicians in some of the major U.S. orchestras by the years that they were in the orchestras.

Go to Great Orchestra Musicians for the musician lists on the Navigation Menu.
The other parts of the site are also interesting.

https://www.stokowski.org/index.html



Best,
Mark

That is an excellent site.