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New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:09 pm
by MN_TimTuba
Well, my old Holton 345 is now in Germany, soon to be in the stable of Daniel Ridder, and now that gaping empty space in my den has been filled. On Saturday my wife and I made the nearly 1000 mile round trip to see Lee Stofer, and we came back to MN with a trunk full of the gorgeous Miraphone 191 gold brass, 5 valve, w 3rd valve kicker that has been on Lee's site, and it was a real adventure. Here's a brief summary.
First of all, it was a pleasure to meet Lee and spend a couple of hours with him. He's a good visit. After chatting outdoors for nearly an hour we entered his shop so he could inspect the 100+ yr old Conn C-Melody sax that was a small part of the deal; then he showed us the Lee Stofer #7 and #8 custom CC/BBb tubas that were nearing completion. Finally we got to the 191. After opening the MTS case and admiring it's gleaming beauty I picked it up and started playing a bit. I used the new Miraphone mouthpiece that came with the horn, after warming up on mid-range stuff I went low and was happy to hear the low F pop right out. I did some more low stuff, and told Lee that I liked the low range; he said, "Yeah, but I think it could sound better, try this" and handed me a new PT-88 mouthpiece. I put it in, went right for the low F and POW - like it was shot out of a cannon. Lee said, "Well, I guess that'll have to go home with you too", and it did. After playing a while I set her back in the case and told Lee that I'd never owned a rotary tuba before, could he take a minute and point out all the lube points. That turned into a 20 minute lube and valve job. He took out every rotor, cleaned and lubed them all, re-assembled it of course, demo'ed how to lube the linkage, then handed me a bag with all 3 needed oils w needle oilers. They went right in the case, too.
All in all, buying from Lee was a great experience, and I hope to bump into him again.
Now, about the horn, after playing her for a couple of hours last night.
My goal in selling the 345 was to downsize a bit. The 191 does certainly feel smaller to handle and is handier in my lap, and it's about 2 inches shorter than the 345, but it's no small horn, for sure. With the 5th valve equipment and the 3rd valve slide kicker I doubt it weighs more than a couple of pounds less than the 345, but it does feel lighter. The rotary valves are quick and silent, and I love the single spit valve. I'm not sold on the 3rd valve kicker, yet - neither Lee nor I noticed any pitch difference until I got down to low Gb, and then it was obvious. I'll have to get used to that. I like having that 5th valve, and the 191 plays all the pedal range nicely and solidly with fewer facial gymnastics than I'd needed on my Holton. I find that I do still play sharp, as I do on most tubas, and am working on deliberately relaxing my embouchure to bring things down to pitch.
So, that's it, except for a couple photos below. I'm anxious to get busy playing this beauty in the locals bands. I think they'll all like it, and I'm hoping it has close to the power of the 345, as it seems to have.
I'm really happy to have this horn.
Tim
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Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:18 pm
by matt g
Fantastic! Enjoy that beautiful new horn!

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:10 pm
by bort2.0
Congratulations! :smilie7:

That looks amazing and you deserve every bit of that horn. A tuba for your next 40 years!

(Making me regret not driving down to Lee last year to get my tuba!)

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:29 pm
by prairieboy1
Congratulations! That horn looks terrific and I am sure you will have many years of enjoyment from it. A well deserved new home for that beautiful Miraphone 191! :tuba: :clap: :clap:

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:41 pm
by ronr
Gorgeous horn!

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:41 pm
by greenbean
Congrats! Enjoy the new horn and thanks for sharing! :thumbsup:

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:06 am
by KingTuba1241X
Very cool. Looks great. :thumbsup:

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:12 am
by Bob Kolada
Congratulations!

I remember reading that some people found 3rd valve D the way to go on a 191, that kicker might be useful for 23 Db.

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:10 am
by Worth
What a beauty, Lee too, he looks great as well. Must have something to do with that country living. Congratulations and enjoy your new axe!
:tuba:

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:05 am
by Three Valves
I love road trip reports but you left out the food reviews... :tuba:

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:35 am
by bort2.0
Three Valves wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:05 am I love road trip reports but you left out the food reviews... :tuba:
Corn. :popcorn:

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:47 am
by Kontrabasstuba
Enjoy your new Tuba Tim! I look really forward to the 345.
She is a bit delayed but she will comes soon :-)

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:01 am
by MN_TimTuba
bort2.0 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:35 am
Three Valves wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:05 am I love road trip reports but you left out the food reviews... :tuba:
Corn. :popcorn:
Ha!
Yeah, when traveling for fun I'm prone to suggest a small town diner to get the local flavor, rather than the quick bite at the drive thru Chow-R-Us, but since this trip was many miles in a short time we did the Gut Bomb Chain experience and ate as seldom as possible. Probably the best meal of the day was breakfast - I made a couple of fried egg/cheddar/bacon on toasted sourdough bun sandwiches...my Egg McTim. They saved the day, meal-wise.
Tim

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:09 am
by Three Valves
If there are no copious stops at salted Walleye or BBQ shacks, I mean, what's the point?? :smilie2:

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:21 am
by tobysima`
Kontrabasstuba wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:47 am Enjoy your new Tuba Tim! I look really forward to the 345.
She is a bit delayed but she will comes soon :-)
Will you post a YouTube video like you did for the other Holton?? I can't wait to hear you play it!

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:22 am
by Doc
Congratulations!

The 191/1291 tubas are superb tubas, IMHO, and they have a fantastic low range. Miraphone valves are the industry leader, bar none. Methinks you will like it!

@Lee Stofer is a real gentleman and a fine fella. Good people, he is.

Please keep us updated with all your exploits, recordings, etc.!

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:42 pm
by Kontrabasstuba
tobysima` wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:21 am
Kontrabasstuba wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:47 am Enjoy your new Tuba Tim! I look really forward to the 345.
She is a bit delayed but she will comes soon :-)
Will you post a YouTube video like you did for the other Holton?? I can't wait to hear you play it!
For sure Toby!

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:18 pm
by tobysima`
Kontrabasstuba wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:42 pm
tobysima` wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:21 am
Kontrabasstuba wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:47 am Enjoy your new Tuba Tim! I look really forward to the 345.
She is a bit delayed but she will comes soon :-)
Will you post a YouTube video like you did for the other Holton?? I can't wait to hear you play it!
For sure Toby!
Can't wait!

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:32 pm
by bort2.0
Three Valves wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:09 am If there are no copious stops at salted Walleye or BBQ shacks, I mean, what's the point?? :smilie2:
Nobody in Minnesota is going to Iowa for Walleye! :slap:

When I'm down that way, I'm like Tim. Focus on the drive, because everything is far between. Maybe Culver's? Not because it's amazing, but because it's nostalgic, and there aren't many in the TC.

Or the occasional Casey's pizza/STH pilgrimage. Again, nostalgia...

Re: New Tuba at Last!

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:49 pm
by Three Valves
No... but they may stop at a joint on the way down or back... :eyes: