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OC CL: Besson Comp 4v
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 11:26 am
by hrender
Re: OC CL: Besson Comp 4v
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 11:54 am
by Name_Plate
Looks like an Eb if I am guessing right. I am extremely tempted but I am cross country.
Re: OC CL: Besson Comp 4v
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 6:03 am
by Tubajug
Yep, looks like Eb to me. Very tempting price....
Re: OC CL: Besson Comp 4v
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:41 pm
by York-aholic
Yep, Eb Besson. I’m 2nd in line. Hope #1 flakes, but I doubt it...
Re: OC CL: Besson Comp 4v
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 4:49 pm
by bloke
- amazing instruments...
- too cheap
- so much anti-top-action bias in the usa
- as if the English are a different subspecies of
homo erectus, and - somehow - they are able to hold/play top-action instruments, yet Americans cannot.
Re: OC CL: Besson Comp 4v
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 6:52 pm
by York-aholic
The first person in line took it home with them...
Re: OC CL: Besson Comp 4v
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 7:50 pm
by LargeTuba
bloke wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:49 pm
- amazing instruments...
- too cheap
- so much anti-top-action bias in the usa
- as if the English are a different subspecies of
homo erectus, and - somehow - they are able to hold/play top-action instruments, yet Americans cannot.
I bought a Compensator about a year ago, and sold it last week. Maybe it was a bad example... I never really enjoyed playing it.
Re: OC CL: Besson Comp 4v
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 9:33 pm
by donn
If factory assembly has a lot to do with actual playing characteristics, then how much more true that must be for designs with multiple extra valve circuits.
Re: OC CL: Besson Comp 4v
Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 6:47 am
by 2nd tenor
I sit here feeling somewhat frustrated.
That Besson (Eb, small bell, Imperial style) was exactly what I want and well within budget ... just got an Ocean and a few thousand road miles between me and it. I suspect that whoever got it got a gem and a real bargain too.
At one time I played something that’s almost the same. Take a little time to change the felts and align the valves, makes a difference and isn’t that hard to do reasonably well. They benefit from a good brush-out too.
The compensating circuit isn’t in use for most of the time (only comes in when the fourth valve is depressed) and hence these instruments aren’t stuffy, the change with the fourth valve depressed isn’t particularly noticeable either.
Re: OC CL: Besson Comp 4v
Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 8:50 am
by bloke
I am willing to sell anyone...
(and I tend to offer very competitive pricing, just fwiw...)
The YELLOW brass version of the JP (same high-grade assembly, regular 70:30 brass, and utility-yet-sturdy zipper case), which is the JP277...
...and I'm ALSO willing (if pre-paid) to simultaneously order them a 15" bell made by Yamaha for their YEB-321 model...
The combination of the Yamaha bell and the JP277 everything-but-the-bell will result in a FINE (and all-new) 15" bell 3+1 yellow brass compensating E-flat tuba.
I'm under the impression that the YEB-321 bell is very much a copy of the Besson/B&H 15" E-flat bell.
The only other possible consideration might possibly (??) be that subtle main slide bow extending could be required...(since the 19"-bell alteration seemed to flatten these instruments...so I'm guessing that a 15" bell alteration to a 19" bell instrument could sharpen them).
That having been said, I play in some ensembles (even paid
) that seem to LOVE to hang around A=444-or-more, that I also might suspect that a slightly sharp-natured tuba might fit in with quite a few ensembles.
JP277
YEB-321 bell
982 mouthpipe
https://www.dawkes.co.uk/mouthpipe-and- ... r-982/8302
Re: OC CL: Besson Comp 4v
Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 9:31 am
by greenbean
York-aholic wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:52 pm
The first person in line took it home with them...
That would be me - sorry. It is on a Greyhound bus as we speak. I have been dreaming about one of these...
Re: OC CL: Besson Comp 4v
Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 3:43 pm
by York-aholic
greenbean wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 9:31 am
York-aholic wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:52 pm
The first person in line took it home with them...
That would be me - sorry. It is on a Greyhound bus as we speak. I have been dreaming about one of these...
No worries. At least its going to a good home.