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York 692?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:32 pm
by Yorkboy
Thinking this might be a 692, based on the configuration of the 4th valve slide and the shortness of the MTS and 5th branch....?
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(publicity shot of Joe E. Brown in the 1942 picture, “The Daring Young Man”.)

Re: York 692?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:34 pm
by Yorkboy
Another view.
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Re: York 692?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:49 pm
by Three Valves
I didn't recognize him until the second photo.

He does not appear to have a mouth for wind instruments... :smilie2:

Should be a bass player...

Re: York 692?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:18 pm
by Yorkboy

Re: York 692?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:44 pm
by York-aholic
I have another version from that photo shoot.
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I agree about it being a 692. As I know you know, the BBb 712 had the smaller upper bow behind the top bow (big end) to in front of it (small end) and it was up just about touching the top bow.

On the back of my picture it says something about him trying to drum up support to donate instruments to servicemen stationed in Alaska...

Re: York 692?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:45 pm
by bloke
(reluctantly) handed up to him from the pit...??

("I sure hope that jackass doesn't drop my York !!! :gaah: ")

Re: York 692?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:08 pm
by York-aholic
bloke wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:45 pm (reluctantly) handed up to him from the pit...??

("I sure hope that jackass doesn't drop my York !!! :gaah: ")
Agree. There were only a handful or two (in the teens I seem to think) of the 692 made.

Who would have been playing for Columbia Pictures in the early forties?

Re: York 692?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:16 pm
by bloke
That B&S model that came out (quite a few years ago) that was supposed to reference these...

How well do those play...and how well do those play in tune?

I believe Cameron Gates may have bought one, while still in the Marine Band.
' something different about them...maybe (??) "no upper #4 slide"...

- original nomenclature?
- later nomenclature?
- picture?

Re: York 692?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:29 pm
by matt g
bloke wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:16 pm That B&S model that came out (quite a few years ago) that was supposed to reference these...

How well do those play...and how well do those play in tune?

I believe Cameron Gates may have bought one, while still in the Marine Band.
' something different about them...maybe (??) "no upper #4 slide"...

- original nomenclature?
- later nomenclature?
- picture?
I think that’s the PT-606P?

https://reverb.com/item/2644383-b-s-gr4 ... 6p-cc-tuba

Re: York 692?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:34 pm
by bloke
Yes...My memory was refreshed by you, and I know that you are absolutely correct.
thank-you...
...and thank-you so much for the link to the picture as well.

' obviously not really a reference instrument at all, just name-dropped "York" in promotional materials.

Further, the 692 sported roughly 100% more curb-appeal.

Re: York 692?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:55 pm
by Yorkboy
The horn in that publicity still looks quite new for the date (1942), and sports a later version (late 30s - early 40s ?) of engraving.
“York-aholic” wrote:On the back of my picture it says something about him trying to drum up support to donate instruments to servicemen stationed in Alaska...
By all accounts I’ve read, Joe E. Brown was in real life a “stand-up” sort of fellow - for example, he traveled with the USO entertaining our troops on his own dime, so this caption doesn’t surprise me in the least.

Widely known in his own day, mostly forgotten now.... :smilie6:

Re: York 692?

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:02 am
by Three Valves
Three Valves wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:49 pm

He does not appear to have a mouth for wind instruments... :smilie2:

I stand corrected. He could fit in a clarinet and trumpet on either side and he'd be perfect!!

:smilie7:

Re: York 692?

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:24 pm
by hrender
In the words of Joe E. Brown, “Nobody’s perfect.”

Re: York 692?

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:11 pm
by Yorkboy
hrender wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:24 pm In the words of Joe E. Brown, “Nobody’s perfect.”
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One of the funniest scenes I’ve ever seen