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WTB: spare miraphone rotary valve cap

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:35 pm
by York-aholic
Hi all. I’m looking to buy a rotary valve cap to fit a Miraphone 183 (Eb) or 184 (BBb or CC), .705” rotor. I’m looking for one with the engraved design, rather that the ones that were plain (Choosers can be beggars). I don’t care if it has the little screw in the middle or the type without.

Like one of these (again, with or without the center screw):
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Price: I’ll pay a reasonable amount, not knowing what a new one costs from Miraphone. Please let me know if you have one rolling around and I’m sure we can reach an agreement.

Re: WTB: spare miraphone rotary valve cap

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:50 am
by the elephant
Just as a source of information, Miraphone bottom valve caps, in nickel silver, with a screw, with engraving, currently cost between $13 and $26, so don't any of you nice people try to get $150 out of him for your used valve cap. Thanks for playing Don't Gouge the Tuba Player!

Sorry. I can delete that text if you like. I am trying to keep things real here when sometimes they can get a little unreal. Some ads here clearly show that some owners believe their old cuspidor is worth a fortune. Most folks are realistic, though.

Just out of curiosity, have you tried a 186 cap to make certain they are not interchangeable? My .835" 191 and current 190 valves and my .769" 186 valves use the same cap. The older style, much larger valves of the 190 valve use a larger one. I am sure yours uses a smaller one, but it would be a shame if a 186 cap fit and you did not just get one of those, since they are much easier to locate. (Point being that not all the valves have their own rear caps, but share with other valves using the same casing OD.)

Good luck!

aaaaaaand BUMP!

Re: WTB: spare miraphone rotary valve cap

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:55 pm
by York-aholic
In that case I’m willing to pay up to $125.

:laugh:

Here is a plain one that fits (1.408” ID):
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Of for those playing in the metric world (35.80mm):
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Thanks for the info @the elephant.

“Hi, is that a 186? Can I measure your valve caps?”

:cheers:

Re: WTB: spare miraphone rotary valve cap

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:49 pm
by the elephant
:bow2:

Re: WTB: spare miraphone rotary valve cap

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:11 pm
by York-aholic
the elephant wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:49 pm:bow2:
?

Re: WTB: spare miraphone rotary valve cap

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:25 pm
by Three Valves
York-aholic wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:55 pm
Can I measure your valve caps?”
Certainly not on a first date. :red:

Re: WTB: spare miraphone rotary valve cap

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:35 am
by bloke
I can't read these clock faces (??)...but yes, those are times that I typically get out of bed.

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Re: WTB: spare miraphone rotary valve cap

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:16 pm
by LargeTuba

Re: WTB: spare miraphone rotary valve cap

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:11 pm
by York-aholic
LargeTuba wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:16 pm https://reverb.com/item/39378179-miraph ... valve-caps

I'm guessing these wouldn't work?
Thanks. I saw those a couple of weeks ago, but the ad said only sold as a set.

Has anyone ever seen a 6v Miraphone 188?

:popcorn:

Re: WTB: spare miraphone rotary valve cap

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:39 am
by bloke
York-aholic wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:11 pm
LargeTuba wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:16 pm https://reverb.com/item/39378179-miraph ... valve-caps

I'm guessing these wouldn't work?
Thanks. I saw those a couple of weeks ago, but the ad said only sold as a set.

Has anyone ever seen a 6v Miraphone 188?

:popcorn:
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If rotary, I'd MUCH prefer a 6-valve C tuba.
As posted about by me previously (more than once or twice), a long SEMI-tone is VERY useful...and eliminates the two (typically) poor choices of 2-4 or 5-2-3, and also offers a spot-on-intonation "double-low" D (3-4-5-6), which - in written music - is appearing more-and-more often.
Though a 188 is one of the more easily-played-in-tune C tubas, a 4+2 system leaves BOTH thumbs available for spring-return slide triggers, so (if mediocre tuning characteristics) one thumb could kick out the main slide, and the other thumb could kick out the #1 slide.

bloke "Additional available devices make things EASIER - and do NOT make things 'more complicated'. Sure...3-valve sousaphones (outdoor noise, etc.) are fine, but - as striking examples - almost no woodwind players are playing two-century-old-bare-bones-systems instruments...and didn't some of the VERY FIRST tubas feature 6 valves...??"

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