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Olds O-99-4

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:19 pm
by ParLawGod
Anyone ever play one of these? I owned one a few years back...seemed more like a 7/8 size tuba. Really enjoyed the sound in brass quintet (I'm only a BBb player, and dabble in Eb, so it was a good fit for me). Not the greatest for concert band, but chamber music it was a real gem IMO. I had the third tuning slide shortened, I believe at bloke's recommendation, and WOW...it really was the most in-tune tuba I've ever played. Sold it a few years ago, and I'm still kickin' myself! One of those instruments I wish I would have kept. Considered a student level instrument, but it definitely played better than that in my mind.

Anyone else have experience with these little horns? Did you enjoy yours as much as I did?

Re: Olds O-99-4

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:27 pm
by LeMark
I owned one for a while. Picked it up dirt cheap, shined it up, took out some dents, and sold it to a student for a very small profit

Nice horns! Could have used a longer 4th valve circuit

Nice rich tone for a small bore horn

Re: Olds O-99-4

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:42 pm
by matt g
Conn 2J/3J fall in the same camp for CC, imo.

Re: Olds O-99-4

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:32 pm
by Doc
These are good tubas. Pretty easy to play. Not cumbersome at all.

Re: Olds O-99-4

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:17 pm
by tbonesullivan
I play(ed) with a guy who has one. He's mainly a CC or F guy, but the price was right, and he wanted to at least get decent on 3 of the 4 standard tunings. Nice smaller American sound. I've heard that with some relatively simple modifications, the intonation can be brought under control.

Re: Olds O-99-4

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:35 pm
by HoltonMammoth
Joe Sellmansberger gave some good clues to the tuba community a while back. The 3rd circuit is correct on one version of these. Perhaps it was the 4v Bach version of these. By shortening the 3rd and possibly the 1st a little, the intonation can be very good.

Re: Olds O-99-4

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:56 pm
by The Big Ben
I have one and like it very much. The only problem is many of them have been through junior high band rooms. That being said, I've had mine for five years and have had a lot of restoration work done including an Oberloh valve refitting. I like playing it and every player of every ability who has played it likes it, too.

A band mate has a 099 3valve and puts a lot of sound out of it. The low notes that can be played with 3 valves come out very nice. If you want a light duty or practice horn, the 3v horns are a little cheaper. Like the 4v, many of them have had a hard life and you need to be selective.

Re: Olds O-99-4

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:33 pm
by bloke
In particular, these seem to be favorites of doublers - who mostly play trombone and baritone/euphonium...
...probably a combination of ease of response, a considerable amount of resistance – more resembling that which is encountered with their primary instruments, and accessible good intonation.

Re: Olds O-99-4

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:09 pm
by ParLawGod
HoltonMammoth wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:35 pm Joe Sellmansberger gave some good clues to the tuba community a while back. The 3rd circuit is correct on one version of these. Perhaps it was the 4v Bach version of these. By shortening the 3rd and possibly the 1st a little, the intonation can be very good.
Yup, those were the modifications! Pitch was spot on after that.

Re: Olds O-99-4

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:05 pm
by bort2.0
I had the 3 valve version for a while -- it was the first tuba I ever owned.

When I graduated high school, I saw it sitting in the corner of the band room. Not many dents, but missing the 3rd valve plus missing the 1st valve stem. The director said he was going to make it ito a lamp, but that if I promised to fix it, I could have it.

I spent $900 to get it repaired and in good playing condition -- it was a great little tuba! I never played it all THAT much, but do remember practicing in my dorm room sometimes with it. I think I even auditioned for one of the athletic bands on that tuba one year, because it was all I had available at the time.

After college, I traded it in at BBC for $700, towards a VMI/MW-30. So for 6 years of tuba usage, I spent $200. That sounds pretty good to me!

Re: Olds O-99-4

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:23 am
by Dave Detwiler
I played one all through my high school years (the school owned two of them), including in the High School Symphonic Band at the National Music Camp at Interlochen (pictured here). I loved that horn, and when I returned to playing after a 25 year hiatus, I had hoped to find one in good condition to buy and use. But instead, I found a VMI 3301, which is very similar, and I love it as well!

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Re: Olds O-99-4

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:20 pm
by Mark E. Chachich
I have an O-99 with 3 valves that I bought at a junk shop. With some repairs (thank you Randy Harrison) it turned out out to be a fine tuba. I have always liked the O-99 tubas, they have a great sound and are very easy to play (my opinion).

Best,
Mark