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bag storage strategies
Help out the rest of us by sharing your clever bag storage strategies - that not only get them out from underfoot and out of sight, but which also would be cat-resistant.
Currently, mine are on the floor of my walk-in closet - where my clothes are. I don’t absolutely hate that, but I really don’t like it.
“Keep your tubas stored in your bags“ is banned from being posted in this thread - as responses. Cats climb on top of such configured bags, and “tubas inside bags“ do not encourage “picking up a tuba and practicing“.
Thank-you - in advance - for your insightful responses and advice.
EDIT:
This is the best that I've come up with (as a personal solution) so far...and (important) doesn't seem to upset Mrs. bloke...
This is just inside our master bath suite (notice: door), and adjacent to the door to my walk-in closet.
I'm wondering about putting a bar (or beefy-diameter stained wooden dowel) up there - with three or four hooks - to catch the regular carry-handles of the tuba bags, and for them to hang horizontally (so as to remain above head-level). To fit them in there, I can alternate which way the bell ends of the bags are oriented. I also explored "right over the door", but the door is in the way of retrieving them, and they would still hang down low enough (even if horizontal) to drag on the door, were they to hang over the door.
convenient: For no particular reason, there already is a (dates back to the 1950's, I believe) super-short collapsible step-stool (folded up against the wall) in this bathroom suite, which would assist in retrieving the bags from "up there"...
...and yeah: In the picture, I did a horrible job of correctly locating the white line, as well as locating it a little bit to close to the wooden ceiling.
Currently, mine are on the floor of my walk-in closet - where my clothes are. I don’t absolutely hate that, but I really don’t like it.
“Keep your tubas stored in your bags“ is banned from being posted in this thread - as responses. Cats climb on top of such configured bags, and “tubas inside bags“ do not encourage “picking up a tuba and practicing“.
Thank-you - in advance - for your insightful responses and advice.
EDIT:
This is the best that I've come up with (as a personal solution) so far...and (important) doesn't seem to upset Mrs. bloke...
This is just inside our master bath suite (notice: door), and adjacent to the door to my walk-in closet.
I'm wondering about putting a bar (or beefy-diameter stained wooden dowel) up there - with three or four hooks - to catch the regular carry-handles of the tuba bags, and for them to hang horizontally (so as to remain above head-level). To fit them in there, I can alternate which way the bell ends of the bags are oriented. I also explored "right over the door", but the door is in the way of retrieving them, and they would still hang down low enough (even if horizontal) to drag on the door, were they to hang over the door.
convenient: For no particular reason, there already is a (dates back to the 1950's, I believe) super-short collapsible step-stool (folded up against the wall) in this bathroom suite, which would assist in retrieving the bags from "up there"...
...and yeah: In the picture, I did a horrible job of correctly locating the white line, as well as locating it a little bit to close to the wooden ceiling.
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Re: bag storage strategies
My response was banned, but as per the normal practices of many TubaForum users, I will just ignore that completely and post whatever TF I want, wherever I want. HAHAHA!!!
I only own one bag per horn. I have no backup bags. I cannot see why a person would ever need a backup bag unless they bought a crap bag that comes apart.
All my horns live in their bags. I have one tuba that lives in my studio. It sits out and has a mouthpiece in it. This is my warmup/daily drill tuba. It also is my horn that I randomly pick up and play on whenever the mood strikes me. It has a stand with all my beloved music on it, with a tuner and metronome on a table next to it. And by tuner and metronome, I mean an old vacuum tube, single wheel Conn Strobtuner from the 1950s, and an old Franz physical tapping metronome with a light on top.
So I do not store gig bags at all, ever. I do, however, have a crap ton of hard cases, and that is an issue for me. I supposed they will continue to live in the walk-up attic, for reasons of FLOOR SPACE, but I detest having to hike up there and bring one down for a bus trip or a long drive in the jeep where using a gig bag would be the result of less-than-sound thinking.
Did you enjoy how I did that? I am going to start doing that all the time now, like everyone else. Rather than complaining, I'll just join in the fun to make my point.
I only own one bag per horn. I have no backup bags. I cannot see why a person would ever need a backup bag unless they bought a crap bag that comes apart.
All my horns live in their bags. I have one tuba that lives in my studio. It sits out and has a mouthpiece in it. This is my warmup/daily drill tuba. It also is my horn that I randomly pick up and play on whenever the mood strikes me. It has a stand with all my beloved music on it, with a tuner and metronome on a table next to it. And by tuner and metronome, I mean an old vacuum tube, single wheel Conn Strobtuner from the 1950s, and an old Franz physical tapping metronome with a light on top.
So I do not store gig bags at all, ever. I do, however, have a crap ton of hard cases, and that is an issue for me. I supposed they will continue to live in the walk-up attic, for reasons of FLOOR SPACE, but I detest having to hike up there and bring one down for a bus trip or a long drive in the jeep where using a gig bag would be the result of less-than-sound thinking.
Did you enjoy how I did that? I am going to start doing that all the time now, like everyone else. Rather than complaining, I'll just join in the fun to make my point.
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Re: bag storage strategies
I have a space between my basement cabinets and my basement refrigerator that I can place bags when empty, either standing upright on the floor or hanging from an overhead hook (which is less convenient). I've placed smaller bags inside larger bags like nesting dolls, no issue there but I've never owned more than 3 bag at a time. I used to keep a given bag for a given horn in a hard case for said horn if the horn was out and active.
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Re: bag storage strategies
A bunch of unorganized thoughts: I'm not sure if he's still doing it, but Tom had been putting a nice solid reinforced O-ring at the bottom rear (right where it would hit your ass, if you were wearing the bag as a backpack), for the purpose of hanging up the bag by that hook. I never used that, but seems like it could be handy for you.
My tubas rarely live outside of their bags (to keep them safe from the kids). I think hanging them by this hook would be a pretty cool idea if I were able to use it. Otherwise, maybe some kind of ceiling hooks (like a bike rack) to get them up and out of the way.
But really, I'm not sure that'll ever happen for me. My house isn't so large that my tuba plus my gig bag can live and occupy space separately. Maybe if there was a dedicated music room it'd be different, but that's not my reality now.
When my kids start playing something, I'm hoping those instruments can be safely stored out of the case as much as is reasonable, to encourage practicing. When I was a kid, I found myself practicing piano more than practicing trumpet... because it was "already there".
My tubas rarely live outside of their bags (to keep them safe from the kids). I think hanging them by this hook would be a pretty cool idea if I were able to use it. Otherwise, maybe some kind of ceiling hooks (like a bike rack) to get them up and out of the way.
But really, I'm not sure that'll ever happen for me. My house isn't so large that my tuba plus my gig bag can live and occupy space separately. Maybe if there was a dedicated music room it'd be different, but that's not my reality now.
When my kids start playing something, I'm hoping those instruments can be safely stored out of the case as much as is reasonable, to encourage practicing. When I was a kid, I found myself practicing piano more than practicing trumpet... because it was "already there".
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Re: bag storage strategies
' absolutely adored it...fwiw.
I have an upright/comp bag, an F tuba bag, a orkesterblitzkriegtuba bag, and (though I prefer the cute little hard case) a stubby-Holton bag.
Everything else is/are when-needed cases - stored up on in the end of the balcony. ("The Science" has shown that cats acquire a natural immunity to hard cases.)
For your viewing pleasure is an a digital image which is intended to represent just how very sharp-witted - albeit "sinister" - your (excused/allowed) post rates:
bloke "I wonder what's in that fancy-ass wooden box...(??) Though (probably) hard to believe, I've NEVER noticed it before - UNTIL it presented itself in the background of this picture."
I have an upright/comp bag, an F tuba bag, a orkesterblitzkriegtuba bag, and (though I prefer the cute little hard case) a stubby-Holton bag.
Everything else is/are when-needed cases - stored up on in the end of the balcony. ("The Science" has shown that cats acquire a natural immunity to hard cases.)
For your viewing pleasure is an a digital image which is intended to represent just how very sharp-witted - albeit "sinister" - your (excused/allowed) post rates:
bloke "I wonder what's in that fancy-ass wooden box...(??) Though (probably) hard to believe, I've NEVER noticed it before - UNTIL it presented itself in the background of this picture."
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Re: bag storage strategies
the elephant wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:34 am I am going to start doing that all the time now, like everyone else. Rather than complaining, I'll just join in the fun to make my point.
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- TubātōTubŏtō (Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:39 pm)
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Re: bag storage strategies
...which would define that Mrs. bloke's two pieces of wall decor (partially revealed at the bottom of the picture) would be [1] covered up, and [2] eventually knocked off the wall, so [insert basketball game buzzer noise, here].bort2.0 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:31 am A bunch of unorganized thoughts: I'm not sure if he's still doing it, but Tom had been putting a nice solid reinforced O-ring at the bottom rear (right where it would hit your ass, if you were wearing the bag as a backpack), for the purpose of hanging up the bag by that hook. I never used that, but seems like it could be handy for you...
When are you going to learn how to property respond to posts, as has Wade?
(ex: Edit your post to offer forth some deer pun or dadjoke - related to the last-posted picture, etc...)
...I believe you're old enough, by now...
As a further example:
I'm going to go into how my $9 USA-based-seller eBay order - for a lid hinge for my newest hard case - was cancelled, and how I then was forced to order one from China...and - further - I can expand on the political/socio/economic implications, and repeat talk-radio blather about that - heard on the radio - driving to-and-from an out-of-town gig, yesterday...which was near the devastating tornado track...and - oh yeah...I like one of those U.S. Senators, but dislike the other, etc., etc., etc...
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Re: bag storage strategies
What did I miss here? A banned post on a Monday morning?
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Re: bag storage strategies
All that you've MISSED here is your second cup of coffee...
Wake up - ahh-say - WAKE UP !, son...
You're receiving a free tutorial in trolling, from some of the very best.
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Re: bag storage strategies
I can't imagine needing to take my bag off and hang it up or store it. I would have to waste my time every day to some extent doing this. My stuff does not sit still long enough to merit unpacking it. One of my horns gets loaded into my Jeep almost every day most of the time. The exception is summer when I neither play nor practice, as per my neurologist's orders. (I have been fighting off FD for about ten years now, and keeping the mouthpiece off my face as much as my job allows seems to help a LOT.)
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Re: bag storage strategies
All I'm doing is putting off finishing the electric in the bathroom while I'm debating how much of the plumbing I want to do myself. I'll probably hire out the plumbing, even though I don't want to. At some point, I'm just out of time in the day.
I just remembered, I have a crawl space under the stairs that wouldn't be a bad spot to put things. But it needs a more proper door for easier entry (instead of an access panel). And also seems to be a popular place for spiders. Not that I love spiders, but they are (duh) remarkably effective at catching flying things, and for the most part, retreat to their corners out of sight. My kids started complaining about spiders the other day, so I asked if they'd rather have crawling things or flying things in the house. They chose crawling (and I agree).
I just remembered, I have a crawl space under the stairs that wouldn't be a bad spot to put things. But it needs a more proper door for easier entry (instead of an access panel). And also seems to be a popular place for spiders. Not that I love spiders, but they are (duh) remarkably effective at catching flying things, and for the most part, retreat to their corners out of sight. My kids started complaining about spiders the other day, so I asked if they'd rather have crawling things or flying things in the house. They chose crawling (and I agree).
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Re: bag storage strategies
I realize how controversial "bag storage" can be...but - well - I try to live by the wise words of John Lennon, in regards this issue:
Considering your locale, I would not only recommend PEX pipe, but double-insulating it, as well.
Just buy the size insulation that fits, and then buy the size that's big enough to fit over the first layer of insulation.
That having been said, at 72° F., use just use anything (whatever's cheapest, etc...)
https://tinyurl.com/notPEXrelated
@the elephant:
Here is a picture of where one of my bags is currently stored:
(It does not feature a metal loop - for hanging it the way that I don't wish to hang it,
but does feature some cute oem braided zipper-pull cords.
Those cords are white, which makes it easier to see them backstage.)
Brett, you're getting the hang of it...but try feign some phrasing and emotion...ex's:JL" wrote:- Imagine no possessions...
- and nothing to get hung about...
- There's a place in Franz...whoops...I believe that was a McCartney one...
Considering your locale, I would not only recommend PEX pipe, but double-insulating it, as well.
Just buy the size insulation that fits, and then buy the size that's big enough to fit over the first layer of insulation.
That having been said, at 72° F., use just use anything (whatever's cheapest, etc...)
https://tinyurl.com/notPEXrelated
@the elephant:
Here is a picture of where one of my bags is currently stored:
(It does not feature a metal loop - for hanging it the way that I don't wish to hang it,
but does feature some cute oem braided zipper-pull cords.
Those cords are white, which makes it easier to see them backstage.)
Re: bag storage strategies
These old Conn Strobotuners are the coolest thing!“the elephant” wrote:
Bloke, IIRC you’ve got lots of room up on the 2nd floor to store bags, no?
Mine, I keep them in my garage attic, along with flotsam and jetsam pieces of donor tubas.
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Re: bag storage strategies
We tend to have a bunch of guests, @Yorkboy, so they don't need to be in those bedrooms, and - if I keep them past the Kawai - up there with all the hard cases and amplifiers, etc. - (again) the cats will have a heyday with them...
...and our carport attic is very generously-sized, but (like Wade) I'm not going up there every time I have a gig - in order to fetch one.
I believe my "hanging rack - just inside the master bath suite" is going to end up being it...horizontally handing them, in the corner - just inside the doorway...
...and our carport attic is very generously-sized, but (like Wade) I'm not going up there every time I have a gig - in order to fetch one.
I believe my "hanging rack - just inside the master bath suite" is going to end up being it...horizontally handing them, in the corner - just inside the doorway...
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Re: bag storage strategies
I built a shelf in my music room/office/guest bedroom about 1.5' below the ceiling.
It goes around about half of the room. Love it.
Used off the shelf 16"... shelving from Home Depot.
Installed a cleat around the perimeter. I got some of the slightly more robust brackets and inverted them so I could support the shelf from above.
(Link below is an album, hover over it to show the arrows)
It goes around about half of the room. Love it.
Used off the shelf 16"... shelving from Home Depot.
Installed a cleat around the perimeter. I got some of the slightly more robust brackets and inverted them so I could support the shelf from above.
(Link below is an album, hover over it to show the arrows)
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Re: bag storage strategies
it seems like tuba gig bags could hang in a typical closet like clothes with some creative double hooked clothes hangers
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Re: bag storage strategies
most of my tuba cases go in an odd shaped under the stairs closet. The closet has no shelves or hanging bars or anything. The tuba cases go on the floor. The gig bags get tossed on top of the hard cases. Out of sight, out of mind.
luggage also ends up in there which seems appropriate.
luggage also ends up in there which seems appropriate.
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Re: bag storage strategies
@cjk If possible, please email me a link to BUY (and specs/dimensions ?) that all-metal thing.
Because the basement seems to stay quite dry, these days (having solved drainage problems around the house, years ago), I might investigate the "hard cases under the stairs" (but not the amplifiers nor speaker towers) strategy...but the gig bags need to be in a "grab-and-go" place, which - along with being virtually cat-proof - is why "just outside my walk-in closet - where the gig clothes are stored" is so attractive to me.
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Re: bag storage strategies
tile floor / 8" tongue-in-groove wood walls (just like the ceilings of the porches, and some of the interior 1st/2nd floor walls/ceilings)
...couches/chairs, pool table, two dogs' (the don't-work-for-a-living-ones) kennels, junk, water heaters (in a closet), another closet under the stairs
to clarify from a very early response (though I don't see as how it matters)...
I only have one bag for each of my tubas: F, E-flat, C, and B-flat
Smaller instruments (the 9' Bb's) have hard cases, and the cimbasso (too easy to tear up in a bag) has a hard case.