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5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:11 pm
by bloke
5th valve seems (??) to be an independent compensating length (perhaps to add to the 1st or 2nd valves for combinations which involve #4...??)
https://www.ebay.de/itm/175099676340
Re: 5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:48 pm
by bort2.0
https://www.ebay.de/itm/134003291375?ha ... SwkXZh7Ya7
I nominate
@Kontrabasstuba to check this one out for us.
Re: 5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:02 pm
by Three Valves
^^^^
Not strange enough for him.
Re: 5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:29 pm
by bort2.0
Three Valves wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:02 pm
^^^^
Not strange enough for him.
Ok, fine... This plus 3 other similar ones, in different keys, so he and his fellow quadruplets can sit side by side and play a 2-minute tune for a YouTube video that we will all jaw drop over.
Re: 5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:31 pm
by Kontrabasstuba
Re: 5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:33 pm
by Kontrabasstuba
It's only 420 km from my home. It's late, but im on the way
Re: 5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:04 am
by bloke
OK…
Surely, you are back home by now…
…so how about a report?
Kontrabasstuba wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:33 pm
It's only 420 km from my home. It's late, but im on the way
Re: 5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:30 pm
by ParLawGod
I'm very interested to know how the lower register is on this horn! I play some of those oberkrainer bass lines in a German kombo...might need to look into a horn like this. I just use my Yamaha 321 since my oval is un-usable in that register...and my Yamaha 642 doesn't get enough "pop."
Re: 5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:21 pm
by Kontrabasstuba
bloke wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:04 am
OK…
Surely, you are back home by now…
…so how about a report?
Kontrabasstuba wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:33 pm
It's only 420 km from my home. It's late, but im on the way
Still on the road. A lot of traffic
Re: 5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:27 pm
by bloke
With temperatures hovering around 7° C. - and intermittent rain showers - we all very sincerely encourage you to exercise extreme caution on the autobahn.
Re: 5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:37 pm
by BramJ
Kontrabasstuba wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:21 pm
bloke wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:04 am
OK…
Surely, you are back home by now…
…so how about a report?
Kontrabasstuba wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:33 pm
It's only 420 km from my home. It's late, but im on the way
Still on the road. A lot of traffic
It is sold, you have it?
Re: 5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:09 am
by Kontrabasstuba
No, i have not bought it..
Re: 5-ROTARY Cerveny (Czech-made) American-STYLE bell-front baritone
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:22 pm
by Bob Kolada
ParLawGod wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:30 pm
I'm very interested to know how the lower register is on this horn! I play some of those oberkrainer bass lines in a German kombo...might need to look into a horn like this. I just use my Yamaha 321 since my oval is un-usable in that register...and my Yamaha 642 doesn't get enough "pop."
I went on a polka video kick for a while a few years ago. Some of them had 5 and 6 valve, INLINE, piston valve sets; very strange. A guy I knew told me his music shop got called by some guy in Europe looking to buy a pallet of King baritones. The only 4 valve American baritone I've ever played was an iffily restored Conn, that did not have a good low register but, to be fair, it didn't play well at all. The 3 front valve Yamaha plays well but with 3 valves.
I always wanted to get a 4 valve King, have a large shank leadpipe installed and a 5th valve added. JC Sherman did a 5 valve King, I think one of his students has it.
You could get a large shank receiver so you can use bass trombone mouthpieces. I have one I really like for jazz bass trombone- a Yamaha 60B. Nice wide rim, fairly shallow, lots of pop. I think Yamahas are one number smaller than Schilkes, this is definitely not a Schilke 60 variant. I seem to recall reading that it's a German style bass trombone mouthpiece.