A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:44 am
by Kontrabasstuba
A piece of music history!
Yankee Doodle with a keyed Bugel (1830/1840) and a Moritz Style F tuba (1850)
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:53 am
by bisontuba
Very nice!
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:14 pm
by bort2.0
YEAH!!! That was great!!
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:38 pm
by Stryk
Love it!
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:45 pm
by Jperry1466
NIce!
A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:35 pm
by Rick Denney
I’ve always wanted to hear a Moritz-style F tuba played by an expert, and this was great. Thanks! Was the mouthpiece typical F-tuba size or smaller?
Rick “how do you remember these weird valve combinations?” Denney
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:28 am
by Kontrabasstuba
Rick Denney wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:35 pm
I’ve always wanted to hear a Moritz-style F tuba played by an expert, and this was great. Thanks! Was the mouthpiece typical F-tuba size or smaller?
Rick “how do you remember these weird valve combinations?” Denney
Rick Denney wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:35 pm
I’ve always wanted to hear a Moritz-style F tuba played by an expert, and this was great. Thanks! Was the mouthpiece typical F-tuba size or smaller?
Rick “how do you remember these weird valve combinations?” Denney
I use a very flat mouthpiece. Not too big.
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:54 am
by bloke
sarcastic question - gently poking fun at some of the corporate mentality here:
When are you going to reconfigure those valves, so the fingering patterns line up with those on your other instruments?
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to get some people here thinking a little bit differently:
For those of you who are both accomplished keyboard typists as well as being very fast two-thumbs texters (with your phones), how do you manage to do both of those things?
… and for those of you who play the bassoon, clarinet, and saxophone: How do you possibly manage that? …or - to those of you who play both bluegrass guitar and fiddle: How can you possibly do both of those things? … and what about those of you who speak multiple languages, and also those of you who program via various types of computer programming languages?
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:33 am
by DonO.
I was aware if the existence of keyed bugles, but I never heard one played well. I have to admit the tone quality sounds much much better than I was expecting. After all it’s a “holey” brass instrument. So I was expecting a tone more like playing with the spit valve open. Something more like when the little people perform “Me and My Shadow” for Napoleon in “Time Bandits”. I don’t know how to post a link to the video of that. Maybe someone could do that? There’s a keyed bugle in Napoleon’s “band”.
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:32 pm
by bisontuba
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:23 pm
by Kontrabasstuba
bloke wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:54 am
sarcastic question - gently poking fun at some of the corporate mentality here:
When are you going to reconfigure those valves, so the fingering patterns line up with those on your other instruments?
——————————
to get some people here thinking a little bit differently:
For those of you who are both accomplished keyboard typists as well as being very fast two-thumbs texters (with your phones), how do you manage to do both of those things?
… and for those of you who play the bassoon, clarinet, and saxophone: How do you possibly manage that? …or - to those of you who play both bluegrass guitar and fiddle: How can you possibly do both of those things? … and what about those of you who speak multiple languages, and also those of you who program via various types of computer programming languages?
Good question. EVERY Tuba has a complete different system. It's quite tricky, but after a few minutes I'm back on the instrument. I like it to work with the Tubas...
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:46 am
by DonO.
Yes! Thank you bisontuba! THAT is what I always thought a keyed bugle sounded like. And also, I can’t see it, but there’s something playing in that band that sounds to my ears suspiciously like a serpent. So, based on nothing more than that movie, I always thought lip-reed instruments with holes instead of valves sounded like passing gas. The fellow playing the keyed bugle in the opening post certainly changed my tune on that! Apparently, they can be made to sound quite good!
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:56 am
by bloke
The problem with most demonstrations of obsolete instruments is that they are done by musicologists - rather than by musicians.
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:23 am
by iiipopes
bloke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:56 am
The problem with most demonstrations of obsolete instruments is that they are done by musicologists - rather than by musicians.
That is why the Doug Yeo recordings of, among other items, of ophicleide ensembles are so refreshing.
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:55 pm
by bisontuba
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:46 pm
by bisontuba
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
"You stick with these men, and you'll have a great future!"
A favorite movie. All the happier to hear they got authentic period instruments!
Re: A piece of music history. Moritz Style F-Tuba and Keyed Bugle
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:30 pm
by scottw
Excellent stuff!
I've been lucky to have heard Jeff Stockham play keyed bugle on 2 occasions and it was a treat to hear such a beastly instrument come alive. I strongly recommend going to this link for more on Excelsior and Jeff. https://www.excelsiorcornetband.com/Exc ... /Home.html
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