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It's extremely common for tubas to offer lower 4th valve tuning for the third partial, as opposed to the second partial.

examples:

B-flat tuba 4th valve: C flatter than low F
C tuba: D flatter than low G
E-flat tuba: F flatter than low B-flat
F tuba: G flatter than low C

The poll (simply) asks how those (whose instruments feature this tendency) deal with it.

Can the wishnick go in the front pocket of one's tuxedo jacket in lieu of a pocket square?

Asking for a friend.

WC8KCY wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:17 am Can the wishnick go in the front pocket of one's tuxedo jacket in lieu of a pocket square?

Asking for a friend.

It probably would have no effect, unless you were to hook it up to a blue tooth device.

Otherwise, be sure that - just as with a potato - you put it in your front trousers pocket, and never in your back trousers pocket.

My wife has a Redskins bobble head wishnick.

I work the tuning slide until it's head stops shaking left to right and begins shaking up and down.

YMMV.

OK, got it.

I assume the Bluetooth device should incorporate a microphone, amplifier, and loudspeaker...and use digital signal processing to emit sound waves out-of-phase to any detected out-of-tune pitch, thus rendering them inaudible ("active noise cancellation").

My choice isn't on the list :(

Tune the upper one to be right and easy. The lower one is really close and lips down easily. C# is sharp, of course, but also easy to lip down. Or play C# as 5-1-2, and lip up a little.

To be honest, I'd probably like a left hand 2nd valve slide trigger.

jtm wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 1:38 pm My choice isn't on the list :(

Tune the upper one to be right and easy. The lower one is really close and lips down easily. C# is sharp, of course, but also easy to lip down. Or play C# as 5-1-2, and lip up a little.

To be honest, I'd probably like a left hand 2nd valve slide trigger.

That's about what I do too. Alternate fingering for 2-4 (on mine, it's 1-2-5) for sustained notes. Whatever for fast runs.

Keep the D in tune. Lip the G down. It's easier for me to lip down and keep a good tone than lip up and keep a good tone.

But again, this is all situational. If I had a piece that had 48 G's in a row and a single D somewhere in there, I'd set the slides accordingly.

496 - I rest my left hand on top of the 4th slide - thumb pulls up, palm pushes in.
186 - I do not move the 4th slide or use alternate fingerings
377 - No slide moving on the Eb comper; F is 4, low Bb is 1&3
Symphonie - G is 1-3, C is 4

jtm wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 1:38 pm
To be honest, I'd probably like a left hand 2nd valve slide trigger.

Those seem to be more or less stock on the newer Cerveny horns. Not sure if Lidl will continue that feature.

If you ignore the fact that the only 4 valve instrument I currently own is a comp euph that I take out of the case a few times a year , I've never really noticed this on tubas. I played a 4/4, 4 valve Rudy Bb when I was in Germany that I played C 13 pull and low F 4. 3rd partial F was 13 and I think I had to play E 123 pull. It actually had a 2nd valve kicker but the valves were tight enough I had to stage it, vented valves would have helped; I didn't have that problem with the 1st valve and played it as a 3 valve horn most of time. I just had a better rhythm with slide pulling that way. If it was my horn I would have looked into a 4th valve extension, either E or Eb, to have a usable low C and B.

Every Bb trombone I've played had that though. I think my Kanstul F contra could play G and C on the same spot though, really messed with muscle memory.

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