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a Miraphone 187 - $5100

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 9:14 am
by bloke
just sold on eBay ($4750 + $350 shipping)

Considering
- 50% of the bell flare is beat up
- no pictures of the back of the instrument body were shown
- the seller's feedback is c. 93%
- the seller offers no returns

How would you rate the selling price of this instrument?

Re: a Miraphone 187 - $5100

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 9:29 am
by DonO.
Not only high, but any one of the above factors would make it a non-starter for me let alone all of them! But hey, it says “Miraphone”, so… :facepalm2:

Re: a Miraphone 187 - $5100

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 9:49 am
by bort2.0
bloke wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 9:14 am just sold on eBay ($4750 + $350 shipping)

Considering
- 50% of the bell flare is beat up
- no pictures of the back of the instrument body were shown
- the seller's feedback is c. 93%
- the seller offers no returns

How would you rate the selling price of this instrument?
The listing says $350 shipping, the item description says free shipping. :huh:

Let me flip the question -- suppose it was listed and sold by a reputable person on the board here, and the photos of the back look just fine. Bell condition obviously the same and still no returns, because who does returns anyway?

What, then, would be an evaluation of the price?

Re: a Miraphone 187 - $5100

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 10:56 am
by bloke
If you're putting it back on me, I don't have an answer.

I'm quite biased, because my selling price on the superbly-built/case-and-shipping-included JP Meinl-Weston 25 copy isn't all that much higher, I like those better than 187's (which I personally view as a disappointing "let's-try-a-B-flat-version" of the very successful 188 idea), the JP's are gleaming brand-new, and they're so consistent that I can drop-ship them...

...so - since I'm quite biased, I'm asking the freak jury what they think of $5100 for a used/rough/as-is/no-returns 187.
(Most of this seller's low feedback seems to be related to poor packaging...This has an old MTS case with it, but I tend to doubt that it will be strapped to a pallet.)

(I watched it until it surpassed $3000. I figured - at $3000 - I could put a very long/hard day in it it, and then - all fixed up nicely and cleaned - see about discovering if there would be interest at $4000 + shipping. Obviously, I underestimated the desirability of these to - at least - a couple of bidders.)

Re: a Miraphone 187 - $5100

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 11:19 am
by jtm
bloke wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 10:56 am I'm quite biased, because my selling price on the superbly-built/case-and-shipping-included JP Meinl-Weston 25 copy isn't all that much higher, I like those better than 187's (which I personally view as a disappointing "let's-try-a-B-flat-version" of the very successful 188 idea), the JP's are gleaming brand-new, and they're so consistent that I can drop-ship them...
Seems like 188s have gotten pretty high lately, too.

Re: a Miraphone 187 - $5100

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 12:02 pm
by bloke
well…188’s are good.

Re: a Miraphone 187 - $5100

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 12:48 pm
by Doc
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