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Lucky Chops

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:37 pm
by hrender

Re: Lucky Chops

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:02 am
by bort2.0
Fun music and well played.

The video movement makes me nauseous.
Also it kills me that the audio is from the recorded track, all reverbed and touched up, but the visual is them in a recording studio.
Not to mention, the fakeness of "get all dressed up because we're in a recording studio to make a music video."

So basically, close your eyes and listen, and it's much better. :)

What kind of sousaphone is that?

Re: Lucky Chops

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:21 pm
by Kirley
bort2.0 wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:02 am What kind of sousaphone is that?
Conn 14K?

There aren't a lot of clear shots to 100% confirm that. But... pretty sure.

She sounds great.

Re: Lucky Chops

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:35 am
by bloke
bort2.0 wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:02 am Fun music and well played.

The video movement makes me nauseous.
Also it kills me that the audio is from the recorded track, all reverbed and touched up, but the visual is them in a recording studio.
Not to mention, the fakeness of "get all dressed up because we're in a recording studio to make a music video."

So basically, close your eyes and listen, and it's much better. :)

What kind of sousaphone is that?
...and that's different from 40,000,000 other videos - in what way, please...?? :eyes:

I've worked with two different bands (NOT that jazz band in the 80's - where we ACTUALLY all recorded in the same room at the same time, and without charts) that had "C.D. Release Parties".
Recording the songs (particularly as they were all taught to us ON THE SPOT by whichever band member brought in a particular song...and with the studio's clock ticking :bugeyes: ) was tough enough, but then - for those parties - we actually had to LEARN the songs to be able to PERFORM them (without charts or scribblings)...which was more difficult.
In particular, this song took us nearly forty-five minutes to learn, because NONE of us had ever played ANY of it in-person with any OTHER of the musicians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sne7eRrQrjo

We couldn't EVEN perform this one, because I recorded both the tuba and trombone lines, and the trombone player (rather than playing trombone) recorded the top voice of the three high woodwind parts (in the "Trio" section), as well as the single/main clarinet line. (One of the other two high woodwind players recorded BOTH of the other lines, because - the same reason I had to record the trombone line - one of the woodwind players and the trombone-player-who-really-is-mainly-a-woodwind-player-but-who-can-play-everything had to leave the session to go play weekly church gigs.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKPDt_Ve06g

Re: Lucky Chops

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:58 am
by bort2.0
It's not different, just that sometimes it's more fake than others.

Like in old movies/musicals, where all of a sudden the singer's voice is crisp and clear (obviously recorded separately and dubbed in). Sometimes it looks pretty real. Other times it may as well be sung by a completely different person. Hrmm... Maybe it was?

Actually, as a total skeptic, why are we to believe the people we are looking at are the people we are hearing? :huh:

Re: Lucky Chops

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:41 am
by bloke
In the 1951 production (best known) of "Showboat", Ava Gardner's voice was dubbed in by Annette Warren singing “Can't Help Lovin' Dat Man of Mine", even though the original with - Ava HERSELF singing - sounds better (to me).

This is ACTUALLY Ava Gardner's voice, and (again: in my view) they ruined it by going back and dubbing in Annette Warren's voice.





Annette Gardner's voice: (yuk)


Of course Ava Gardner was "dubbed in" for Lena Horne, but that's another story. :smilie6:

Re: Lucky Chops

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:38 pm
by hrender
Lucky Chops has a quite a few recordings including several of them playing live in the NY subway. I first learned of them through the video below (2.75M views). Beyond that, I begrudge no band dubbing their own recordings, but then I'm old and grew up with that.


Re: Lucky Chops

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:07 pm
by tofu
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