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After the traditional hemiola ritardando - in the bassoons and low strings, the maestro looks towards (not the basses, but) the tuba:

...and that D had better be placed correctly and decisively



' reminded of this annually, obviously...

One of the bassoonists had to bail for our big night.

So tuba must play the intro to Nutcracker.

Co-cair’s most important note is F, mine is Bb, instead of the two of us playing both and running out of gas.

Timing was actually quite good. One either has rhythm or one hasn’t.

I dug this up from 2020...
(We were playing when most orchestras weren't.
I wish I had known this was on the orchestra's website when I tossed up this thread.)

Notice that downbeat (at H) - watching the video at 5:16, then look back at the MD; I actually got a "thank-you" for it.



bloke "I hate that venue...(Maybe others can, but) I can't hear a damn thing...not even the basses (right in front of me - who I really-REALLY need to hear!)"

Definitely decisively and correctly too. Love that interpretation of what’s needed.

As an aside. Unless I’m in error that lot (displayed music) could be played on a three valve Eb … compensation might help.

Really enjoyed listening to that video, thank you.

I just like the word hemiola.

Some day, perhaps, i should check out the nut cracker, as it sounds like folk make a big deal of it. Have heard recordings and it is fine music.

humBell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:37 pm I just like the word hemiola.

Some day, perhaps, i should check out the nut cracker, as it sounds like folk make a big deal of it. Have heard recordings and it is fine music.

This wasn't in Memphis obviously, but every year - for the past several years - Memphis has had two different ballet companies do it with the Memphis Symphony.

One version is jazzed up and features some of those big band arrangements of some of the Tchaikovsky movements - along with some other things as well as some of the traditional movements, and the one - that's closer to Christmas - features a absolutely straight ahead traditional version.

humBell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:37 pm I just like the word hemiola.

Some day, perhaps, i should check out the nut cracker, as it sounds like folk make a big deal of it. Have heard recordings and it is fine music.

This wasn't in Memphis obviously, but every year - for the past several years - Memphis has had two different ballet companies do the Nutcracker with the Memphis Symphony.

One version is jazzed up and features some of those big band arrangements of the original Tchaikovsky (by Duke Ellington and Billy Strayhorn - circa 1960) - along with some other things, as well as some of the traditional movements, and the one - that's closer to Christmas - features a absolutely straight ahead traditional version.

You might actually consider flying down to see the non-traditional one. It's quite a thing. Besides the traditional string quartets, woodwind quintets, brass quintets and such that many symphony orchestras offer as chamber ensembles within the orchestra, the Memphis Symphony actually has a formal big band. The contrabassoonist and the second bassoonist are both fine saxophone players, and they bring in a couple more regularly. The orchestra's pianist is also versatile, and one of the percussionists - in particular - is a fine set drummer. You might imagine, more than one of the bassists also plays jazz.

I know multiple versions get done in the greater Boston area as well, including the the "Slutcracker" which i believe is in Davis Square? The done in Boston proper by Boston Ballet is probably more traditional. Alas i am so uncultured as to have attended neither.

As for recordings, i know Spike Jones and his city slickers did a version.

Still, hemiola is a fine word. I think someone said it in a rehearsal for the Gondoliers (there is ample opportunity) and it has stuck with me since.

humBell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:00 pm Still, hemiola is a fine word. I think someone said it in a rehearsal for the Gondoliers (there is ample opportunity) and it has stuck with me since.

...not to be confused with the "hemi orange one":

bloke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:18 pm

humBell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:00 pm Still, hemiola is a fine word. I think someone said it in a rehearsal for the Gondoliers (there is ample opportunity) and it has stuck with me since.

...not to be confused with the "hemi orange one":

Which would be lubricated with... hemi oil?

humBell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:00 pm I know multiple versions get done in the greater Boston area as well, including the the "Slutcracker" which i believe is in Davis Square? The done in Boston proper by Boston Ballet is probably more traditional. Alas i am so uncultured as to have attended neither.

As for recordings, i know Spike Jones and his city slickers did a version.

Still, hemiola is a fine word. I think someone said it in a rehearsal for the Gondoliers (there is ample opportunity) and it has stuck with me since.

The Boston Ballet presentation is traditional and done well with live music.