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This takes me back. I used one of these toobahs in high school. My school "upgraded" from the smaller-bell 681 when I was a freshman (although I think the 681 played a bit better). I played on the 681 in 7th and 8th grade, then switched to this 686 from 9th grade to 11th grade, when I got a CC.

https://www.dillonmusic.com/used-cerven ... n-212761-/

That looks solid for -3k!

Yes, great price. Good tuba. Basically like a Miraphone 186 but maybe a little less sturdy.

arpthark wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:25 am Yes, great price. Good tuba. Basically like a Miraphone 186 but maybe a little less sturdy.

Or if you're @LeMark, the Miraphone 186 is basically like the Cerveny, except for thicker metal.

Really though, it looks like a recent model Cerveny -- I've tried a few of them (and owned a newer Cerveny 653 F tuba). Some say the valve linkages feel a bit thin -- better than JinBao, but not as nice as Miraphone. I would agree they are not at the Miraphone level (IMO, nothing really is), but I thought they were solid, quick, and silent.

As Joe mentioned about his F tuba after playing the Kaiser... the valves on the Cerveny felt like a toy.

I'm sure Matt needs no help selling this tuba, I'd bet that some HS kid is going to grab it this weekend or next.