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I love that this one (don't know about the other one) has a lyre holder!

Can't you just imagine a lyre on there with a flip folder of marches?

That horn came "fully loaded". All the extras.

My 4v front action York 6/4 came with a lyre holder and strap rings (small strap rings to boot). With the big ‘ol 26” fixed recording bell, that thing would have been a beast to march with...

Someone please tell me that the CSO York’s didn’t come with strap rings.

They didn't come with snap rings...
When Walter Nirschel made his first CSO York copy for Gene Pokorny he was quite amused about Gene being puzzled about the lyre holder. But he was told to produce a copy as true as possible!

York-aholic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:16 pm that thing would have been a beast to march with...

Hey, they make these kids march with 20J tubas.

Snake Charmer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:17 am They didn't come with snap rings...
When Walter Nirschel made his first CSO York copy for Gene Pokorny he was quite amused about Gene being puzzled about the lyre holder. But he was told to produce a copy as true as possible!

Mike Roylance’s WN York copy also has the lyre holder.

SIDEBAR:

Do Miraphone 186 tubas still come with lyre holders?

Elkhart-era Conn model 8D horns feature lyre holders. Those in really fine condition sell for more than new ones.

I've had a few people ask me to remove them, and - based on so many people's hocus-pocus beliefs (vs. the benefits of actual practice time), I look at them a bit sarcastically and ask them if they aren't afraid that removing it would change the sound.

Lyre holders can be prove to be handy, and particularly to those who only play written-down music. Graveside jobs - just as a set of examples - pay about as well as any other, and who wants to carry a metal music stand (subject to wind) that's some number of hundred feet over to a grave tent in cold winter temps, rather than simply using a lyre and reducing the size of the sheet music?

Here's a question:

Lyre holder on sousaphones?

Useful or unused?

arpthark wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:53 am Here's a question:

Lyre holder on sousaphones?

Useful or unused?

I'm not hired to play NOLA brass band music often enough to remember all of the very specific funky bass lines and strains involved with that repertoire. When hired to do so - as I have been again for this upcoming Mardi Gras - where the hell am I supposed to put my index card cheat sheets otherwise?

I use a lyre bent more like a saxophone one - which is set back farther away from my eyes, and the horizontal portion being curved to line up with the curve of the tuning bits.
Otherwise, I really have a hard time focusing on small print that's only about ten inches away from my face, and - additionally - a simple vertical wire style lyre blocks my view - when walking down the middle of a street with a band.