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Cerveny Arion CBB-683-4
$4,500
Listed 3 days ago in Van Nuys, CA
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Lee Stofer Custom 2341-5
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Lee Stofer Custom 2341-5
Miraphone 83 Eb
Miraphone 191-5 (formerly)
Holton BBb345 (formerly and fondly)
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Not sure why the original post says it's no longer available, tuba ad is still there. Go to the group and scroll down a bit.
Tim
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Lee Stofer Custom 2341-5
Miraphone 83 Eb
Miraphone 191-5 (formerly)
Holton BBb345 (formerly and fondly)
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Mark,
I'm just curious, what changed and when? Was it a build quality issue? Materials?
Tim
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Miraphone 83 Eb
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Holton BBb345 (formerly and fondly)
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All of the above. After the iron curtain fell, American retailers put pressure on cerveny to export many more tubas than they were previously, as alternatives to miraphone for the school market. (Chinese tubas were still tuba shaped objects back then, and st Pete was only sold by tuba exchange)
Quality fell like a rock, and right about when Chinese tubas started getting decent, King offered the newly redesigned 2341 as a good school horn, and cerveny was no longer in the discussion anymore for tubas that should be considered
They are supposed to be better now. I might have a chance over the summer to play some of the new models we'll see. I'm a huge cerveny fan, played them almost exclusively for the last 35 years, but only the ones that were made before 1989
Quality fell like a rock, and right about when Chinese tubas started getting decent, King offered the newly redesigned 2341 as a good school horn, and cerveny was no longer in the discussion anymore for tubas that should be considered
They are supposed to be better now. I might have a chance over the summer to play some of the new models we'll see. I'm a huge cerveny fan, played them almost exclusively for the last 35 years, but only the ones that were made before 1989
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I seem improvements (re: picture) over those which were the early post-S-arm ones.
I believe I also see a little hurtie....
I believe I also see a little hurtie....
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Fer shurr.
Gotta give credit where credit is due - that masking tape over the spit valve is a big improvement over having no tape at all.
Tim
Gotta give credit where credit is due - that masking tape over the spit valve is a big improvement over having no tape at all.
Tim
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Lee Stofer Custom 2341-5
Miraphone 83 Eb
Miraphone 191-5 (formerly)
Holton BBb345 (formerly and fondly)
Lee Stofer Custom 2341-5
Miraphone 83 Eb
Miraphone 191-5 (formerly)
Holton BBb345 (formerly and fondly)