for band directors: PLASTIC TOP-MOUNTED VALVE GUIDES
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:31 am
There is a nib/nipple (whatever you wish to label it) on the bottoms of the plastic valve guides that fits into a drilled or partially-drilled hole on the tops of pistons (for alignment).
The nib/nipple isn't a super-tight fit into the hole drilled into the top of a piston.
As your fidgety students (as you mostly are teaching woodwinds how to play fast, and baritone/tuba students are sitting in the back, bored) spin the finger buttons, they also loosen the stems. This allows the plastic valve guides to move subtly, yet still within that drilled spot on the top of the piston.
Good-condition guides can move barely outward too far, and drag in the guide slots.
Worn guides (which are just good enough to function) will retreat inward, slip nearly out the valve guide track, and the piston will stick.
REALLY loose valve stems will cause the guide to be able to spin and (rather than the drilled spot intended) the nib/nipple will land in the OTHER (larger) hole in the top of the piston - the vent hole - and the valve will spin.
If you can diagnose these problems, address them, and/or stop the fidgeting (maybe, figure out something for them to do...), you won't be sending instruments in for repair that might not actually be broken...or (when ten seconds of stuff will make them play again) setting them up on the top shelf for the rest of the school year, and - as a replacement - handing a kid a leaky "old dog".
Also, school-owned low brass instruments never end up being oiled, end up full of lime, and freeze up...OR they are oiled regularly, and the pistons are dropped onto the floor and bend...so (maybe?) have the students oil down the mouthpipe tubes towards the valves and wiggle the valves. It's a crappy way to oil valves, but the pistons won't fall onto the floor.
Never mind the "At my school, we always..." This for the others "who never".
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related topic:
There's also a way to get totally worn-out guides to work again (in an emergency). It requires that someone have some hand skills, decent close-up vision, and some attention to detail. I'm not going into that stuff, today.
The nib/nipple isn't a super-tight fit into the hole drilled into the top of a piston.
As your fidgety students (as you mostly are teaching woodwinds how to play fast, and baritone/tuba students are sitting in the back, bored) spin the finger buttons, they also loosen the stems. This allows the plastic valve guides to move subtly, yet still within that drilled spot on the top of the piston.
Good-condition guides can move barely outward too far, and drag in the guide slots.
Worn guides (which are just good enough to function) will retreat inward, slip nearly out the valve guide track, and the piston will stick.
REALLY loose valve stems will cause the guide to be able to spin and (rather than the drilled spot intended) the nib/nipple will land in the OTHER (larger) hole in the top of the piston - the vent hole - and the valve will spin.
If you can diagnose these problems, address them, and/or stop the fidgeting (maybe, figure out something for them to do...), you won't be sending instruments in for repair that might not actually be broken...or (when ten seconds of stuff will make them play again) setting them up on the top shelf for the rest of the school year, and - as a replacement - handing a kid a leaky "old dog".
Also, school-owned low brass instruments never end up being oiled, end up full of lime, and freeze up...OR they are oiled regularly, and the pistons are dropped onto the floor and bend...so (maybe?) have the students oil down the mouthpipe tubes towards the valves and wiggle the valves. It's a crappy way to oil valves, but the pistons won't fall onto the floor.
Never mind the "At my school, we always..." This for the others "who never".
====================================
related topic:
There's also a way to get totally worn-out guides to work again (in an emergency). It requires that someone have some hand skills, decent close-up vision, and some attention to detail. I'm not going into that stuff, today.