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Is that built on the old smaller 45 frame?

bloke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:46 pm Is that built on the old smaller 45 frame?

Good question....

bloke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:46 pm Is that built on the old smaller 45 frame?

Doesn't quite look it to me. I had an old 60s/70s original 46 and it was surprisingly small with a very small bell. This looks like the frame of the later (80s?) MW45.

Is that a second valve trigger?
(Reminding myself that I don't need another F tuba until I get better with the one I already have)

jtm wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:45 pm Is that a second valve trigger?
(Reminding myself that I don't need another F tuba until I get better with the one I already have)

Yup, a second valve trigger.

The quint valve is interesting. I always forget what the lay down for those lower fingerings will be, but I’m guessing having some throw on the slides is useful.

This is the old model "Walter Hilgers" and you need a 2nd slide trigger for the new quintvalve combinations in the lower register. It's a good sounding tuba, but you need a strong ear! Bore sice is 19.5 to 20.5 mm.