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Vintage BBb?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:11 am
by hrender

Re: Vintage BBb?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:13 am
by arpthark
I was eyeing that. I think it's actually an F or Eb. Not enough guts to get to BBb. @TheBerlinerTuba, any info on this?

Re: Vintage BBb?

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:12 am
by donn
I'll put my nickel on BBb. Ah, I mistook some valve tubing in back for main bugle. Maybe Eb then.

Re: Vintage BBb?

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:40 am
by LeMark
I vote Eb

Re: Vintage BBb?

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:00 am
by arpthark
My Ukrainian kopiika is on F. Looks kinda like a Scherzer with the short horizontal MTS , but the braces are Alexander-y.

Re: Vintage BBb?

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:55 am
by arpthark
Well, someone grabbed the Migma. Let's hope it wasn't exposed to magma. And there's an off-color joke or two buried somewhere in that name, but I'm not gonna touch it.

Re: Vintage BBb?

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:58 am
by hrender
Not a Migma, but another vintage horn here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166397937924

Re: Vintage BBb?

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:06 am
by arpthark
hrender wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:58 am Not a Migma, but another vintage horn here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166397937924
Now that is definitely a vintage BBb!

Looks like a very no-frills/un-fancy B&S/"Sonora"/"Meister Gerhard Schneider."

Re: Vintage BBb?

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:33 pm
by Heavy_Metal
I'd say it's a "Weltklang" stencil, since it doesn't have a kranz. ISTR that was their "student model". Still the same basic B&S 101, should be a good player.

:tuba:

Re: Vintage BBb?

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:15 am
by arpthark
Heavy_Metal wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:33 pm I'd say it's a "Weltklang" stencil, since it doesn't have a kranz. ISTR that was their "student model". Still the same basic B&S 101, should be a good player.

:tuba:
Ja, danke. No kranz, and no nickel silver at all, even the ferrules and whatnot.

Re: Vintage BBb?

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:20 am
by jtm
arpthark wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:15 am … and no nickel silver at all, even the ferrules and whatnot.
I must be spoiled for taking those things (and whatnots) for granted.

Re: Vintage BBb?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:53 pm
by TheBerlinerTuba
Hard to say without the dimensions. An Eb or F for sure, but need the length of the 2nd valve circuit to confirm which key.
Based on the bracing and thumbring I would bet on Knoth or Wunderlich as the maker but it could be Horst Voigt as well. Not a huge difference either way... :eyes:
arpthark wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:13 am I was eyeing that. I think it's actually an F or Eb. Not enough guts to get to BBb. @TheBerlinerTuba, any info on this?