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Belgium: Gronitz 3+3 tuba

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:16 am
by arpthark
Says tuba in ut (C) but I am skeptical based on the overall size of the instrument compared to the door in the pics.

https://www.2ememain.be/v/musique-instr ... lettes-3-3

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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:46 am
by Dents Be Gone!
I agree, guys. This is the way to go.

Re: Belgium: Gronitz 3+3 F tuba

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:31 am
by arpthark
Dents Be Gone! wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:46 am Could be…. Pretty long slides.

All I know is that it’s cool! And “Avec valise ou sac” is more fun than “With case and bag.” :smilie2:
Depending on what part of Belgium, it could also be "Met koffer en tas"!

Re: Belgium: Gronitz 3+3 F tuba

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:44 pm
by TheHatTuba
The extra loop in the bugle says "not F" to me, but I've never seen one of these not in F.

Re: Belgium: Gronitz 3+3 F tuba

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:28 pm
by arpthark
TheHatTuba wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:44 pm The extra loop in the bugle says "not F" to me, but I've never seen one of these not in F.
You're right, I was thinking "tuba in ut" = C tuba, like a French C tuba. Definitely bigger than that. Now that I see that loop 'round back, CC seems likely.

Re: Belgium: Gronitz 3+3 tuba

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:52 pm
by dp
???

left hand:
4
5
6

right hand:
1
2
3

???

Re: Belgium: Gronitz 3+3 tuba

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:54 am
by BoerkeNys
I've contacted the seller. His reply to my questions:

L’instrument est bien en ut !
C’est un modèle unique fait sur mesure fin des années 80 pour un tubiste français par la marque Gronitz (marque Artisanale qui a son atelier à Hambourg).
Il n’existe pas d’autres instruments de la même série .
Ce tuba a une mécanique « danoise «
3+3 palettes .
Ce système est couramment utilisés sur les tuba fa mais existe aussi pour les ut .
1 valve 1t
2e valve 1/2t
3e valve 2t
4e valve 2,5T
5e valve 1/2T
6e valve 1t
La particularité de ce système permet de jouer sur les doigtés et harmoniques ce qui simplifie certains traits techniques et qui permet une meilleurs justesse !

Or translated:

The instrument is indeed in C!
It is a unique model made to measure at the end of the 80s for a French tuba player by the Gronitz brand (Artisanale brand which has its workshop in Hamburg).
There are no other instruments in the same series.
This tuba has “Danish” mechanics
3+3 pallets.
This system is commonly used on F tuba but also exists for C.
1 valve 1t
2nd valve 1/2t
3rd valve 2t
4th valve 2.5T
5th valve 1/2T
6th valve 1t
The particularity of this system allows you to play on fingerings and harmonics, which simplifies certain technical features and allows for better accuracy!

Re: Belgium: Gronitz 3+3 tuba

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:06 am
by MiBrassFS
How about a picture of this interesting instrument…?

The link didn’t work for me.

Re: Belgium: Gronitz 3+3 tuba

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:42 am
by arpthark
MiBrassFS wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:06 am How about a picture of this interesting instrument…?

The link didn’t work for me.
Hmm, seems to have disappeared. The link was from October 2023 and unfortunately I don’t think I saved a pic locally.

Re: Belgium: Gronitz 3+3 tuba

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:01 am
by the elephant
… aaaaaand it's gone!

Re: Belgium: Gronitz 3+3 tuba

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:04 am
by the elephant
… aaaaaand I just noticed that you already know this. (Sorry!)