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Looks like some really serious bell crushing in its history.

Actually I'd be tempted by this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/305302160276?h ... Sws7Nlb5~k
I imagine that is going to have the contra sound I want, plus guessing it might be easy to blow. And not much money.

Edit: Seller says local tuba player thinks it has a leak. If I were a fixer-upper I'd be tempted.

Mary Ann wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:19 pm Looks like some really serious bell crushing in its history.

Actually I'd be tempted by this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/305302160276?h ... Sws7Nlb5~k
I imagine that is going to have the contra sound I want, plus guessing it might be easy to blow. And not much money.

Edit: Seller says local tuba player thinks it has a leak. If I were a fixer-upper I'd be tempted.

5J...Not long ago (repair forum...pictures?) I fixed up one that belongs to a FedEx middle management guy...
I had seen it at the pawn shop from which he bought it (a few years ago) and I passed on it - at $3XX...too beat up...
...but I didn't mind being paid my customary/retail hourly charge for putting it as it should be.

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5J is ok...but the Olds O-99-4 - and later made-by-Bach-with-the-same-tooling - sure are better (in my view).

185: pretty pics overall, but I know stuff about that model, and I believe I may (??) see stuff in those pictures.
y'all knock yourselves out.

So 5js are stuffy. Oberloh has both a 186BBb and a 5J BBb.

bloke wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:39 pm

185: pretty pics overall, but I know stuff about that model,

I've never played one - what kind of issues do they have?

Stryk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:27 am

bloke wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:39 pm

185: pretty pics overall, but I know stuff about that model,

I've never played one - what kind of issues do they have?

tuning (at least those which I've played).
I bought a no-dents/original-worn-lacquer-one (remarkable condition) and flipped it, several years ago.
Luckily (for me - particularly with that sale), most tuba players seem perfectly happy with tubas that present numerous intonation challenges.

I'm also seeing an instrument whereby - I would wager (though I'm only looking at pictures) - has been refinished after having been aggressively polished.

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As I've stated before here, the Democrat Republican liberal conservative stuff is far from the most political thing that is discussed here. The very most political stuff discussed here is the critique of specific makes and models of tubas, and the rebuttal is nearly always some sort of name dropping.

Those of us who owned 184 C tubas ("redneck" F tubas) loved them...and they are pretty easy to sell to older players (who wish they had theirs back), but (along with subsequent models - all manufacturers - that have been stinkers) there have been some much-easier-to-play-in-tune models produced, since the models 80-83-84-85-86-90 (1960's - mid-1970's) era...though (duh) a large percentage of 86 model instruments (both lengths) have been consistent winners.

In my view (and having only engaged the Hagen 5/4 6/4 models) I don't know much about the smaller Hagen things, but (not as recently-developed) the 282 (only a B-flat version) - and ONLY in bloke's OPINION - "bridges" the vintage B-flat 84-85 models (though - oddly - with a 4/4 bore size), and with really accessible intonation characteristics.

a plus: Most 282's probably haven't yet been badly-damaged, repaired, and heavily buffed.