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Vintage 5/4-6/4 CC 4P 1R $4000

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:41 pm
by martyneilan
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  • 40" tall German body stamped Mitsching handmade sheet brass, most likely made "between the wars"
  • Piston valveset off an early Meinl Weston 2165 with lightweight Martin Wilk top and bottom valve caps and Sellmansberger valve buttons (aka Bloke Buttons), fully vented
  • 5th rotor from the original instrument (replated)
  • Fully adjustable MW thumbring
  • Garland off a Miraphone recording bell (approx. 19.5")
  • Reversed main tuning slide with B&S tubes and Saturn water key
Although the bell is a 6/4 in dimension, this instrument's taper expands much slower than an American 6/4 putting the size and sound more between a 5/4 and 6/4.

Surprisingly lightweight, responsive, huge focused sound - not a foghorn, very ergonomic. Pitch is fine once you figure it out. Not the first choice for the VW Concerto, although I successfully performed Symphonie Fantastique (1st and only tuba).

Horn is at Baltimore Brass and price has been cut to absolute bottom line of $4000. Includes Altieri gigbag. They have replaced the leadpipe and mouthpiece receiver with something more professional than my home-bent version.

Pictures: https://photos.app.goo.gl/seYYYKadqyDbBxHr7

Here is an example of how it sounds (headphones or good speakers suggested):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZrb5OjCrgU
and another:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCjIbPa7igI
and lots of tuba playing in this patriotic concert - performance starts at 9:50:
(There must have been a mic in the direction of the bell, upon relistening the tuba cuts through like a knife)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0r_5MV0i1Y&t=557s

Re: Vintage 6/4 CC 4P 1R $6000

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:39 pm
by dsfinley
Now THAT’S a BAT

Re: Vintage 6/4 CC 4P 1R $6000

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:51 pm
by matt g
@martyneilan great sound in those clips!

The Copland piece is a difficult one with those open intervals. When it was your turn, you really helped set up a proper foundation for the brass to rest upon. Good stuff!

Re: Vintage 5/4-6/4 CC 4P 1R $4000

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:26 am
by martyneilan
Horn is at Baltimore Brass and price has been cut to $4000. Includes Altieri gigbag. They have replaced the leadpipe and mouthpiece receiver with something more professional than my home-bent version.

Re: Vintage 5/4-6/4 CC 4P 1R $4000

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:15 am
by martyneilan
Bump for additional price cut. This horn is large but lightweight and responsive.

Re: Vintage 5/4-6/4 CC 4P 1R $4000

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:09 pm
by martyneilan
Bump for bottom line price cut. Given the repairs that BBC did, I cannot go below this number.
The horn may not be cosmetically perfect, but it is a player!

Re: Vintage 5/4-6/4 CC 4P 1R $4000

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:53 am
by tclements
Clements mouthpiece?!?

Re: Vintage 5/4-6/4 CC 4P 1R $4000

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:09 am
by martyneilan
Warburton Neilan, made in the late 90s.
Roughly an AJ mouthpiece with a C4 rim in a heavyweight brass soupcan configuration.