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@Yadent's thread about the Eastman EEb (I'd love to try one) got me thinking about all the talk about Wessex making a 6/4 EEb, possibly copying @UncleBeer's Franken EEb (another I'd love to try). Did anything projects or plans ever arise out of those discussions?

@Wyvern

You Mean this thread?

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a general comment only:

It’s a bit odd how difficult it seems to be to build an E-flat tuba that plays fairly well in tune that is not compensating.
Willson comes to mind, and then - afterward - I draw a blank...

I really like the Norwegian star, but that's a totally different animal than the front action piston horns

Doc wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:47 am ...Wessex making a 6/4 EEb, possibly copying @UncleBeer's Franken EEb

It's definitely not a copy of my horn.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. If the new horn at Wessex isn't the best damn Eb tuba in the world, then they made a serious mistake in not using Carl's design (which IS maybe the best Eb tuba I've ever played.

Now, having said that, out of fairness I will say... I've never played the horn that was used as a template, and I know that copies rarely equal the original

bloke wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:21 pm a general comment only:

It’s a bit odd how difficult it seems to be to build an E-flat tuba that plays fairly well in tune that is not compensating.
Willson comes to mind, and then - afterward - I draw a blank...

I'll bite. If C and F tubas that play fairly well in tune are not uncommon, why is Eb a problem?

jtm wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:57 pm

bloke wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:21 pm a general comment only:

It’s a bit odd how difficult it seems to be to build an E-flat tuba that plays fairly well in tune that is not compensating.
Willson comes to mind, and then - afterward - I draw a blank...

I'll bite. If C and F tubas that play fairly well in tune are not uncommon, why is Eb a problem?

The Yamaha 621 F is manageable. The typical B&S rotary tubas (and really good knock-offs) are as well...particularly those with more bore sizes and smaller mouthpipe tubes.
I've also played a couple of MRP F tubas that I could steer.

It just seems that the German-made (or Chinese-made) 4-piston + 1 rotor E-flat tubas offer wild tuning...even when (it is claimed) that their bows are the same ones used on a sort-of-in-tune-playing 3+1 compensating model...

I'm not a tuba intonation issues problem-solver; I'm only an observer.
My version of "problem solving" is "buy a tuba with fewer problems".

LeMark wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:18 pm You Mean this thread?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=605&p=6272&

I guess I never saw his response. Thanks.

UncleBeer wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:31 pm

Doc wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:47 am ...Wessex making a 6/4 EEb, possibly copying @UncleBeer's Franken EEb

It's definitely not a copy of my horn.

Is there a chance you will ever try to build another?

Doc wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:14 am
Is there a chance you will ever try to build another?

Well, the bell is 104 years old. HN White 20" pancake bell, and it's pretty thin (hard to tell if it always was). I think it'd be hard to find more of 'em.